i think elon will have more fun, thats for sure.

both have some amazingly good footguns. maybe if they lie down feet to feet and go at it?

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About the kidnaping thing and not not quote the super extensive messages.

Most of them have to be know, you cant have a company that big and dont show your face.

Second everyone knows who have money and who not, and this is before crypto even existed, so yes now you have a 0.00000000000001% more chance of being attacked, but the main factor is if you are a fool and you liv a expensive live and you show everything.

As far as we can see all the attacks were made by silly folks who are pretty amateurs and seems like they have the information and wants to become multimillionars with that kidnapping. Nothing really serious to care about.

And yes we have to follow what its happening but dont panick out.

Yeah they do, but are we really scared? We are only "out of sight" not "out of mind"
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I am not against each of us attempting to protect ourselves, yet at the same time, it seems to me that you are glossing over my point that relates to using bitcoin and even interacting with people who use bitcoin, which are good things.  Bitcoin meet ups and other ways of interacting with our communities in bitcoin ways can also be good for each of us and good for bitcoin too.

No one is forcing you.

You do what you like, including if you want to stay quite about your bitcoin and ONLY perfrom KYC transactions through approved channels.  That's your choice.
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I understand the point that you are trying to prove. Our lives are important and nothing is wrong with protecting it. But it is not advisable to let you emotion to control you, if not, you will end up hiding yourself at home without doing anything that is going to be beneficial/profitable to you, to stabilise your life and that of your family. In this life, NO PAIN, NO GAIN. "if you want a goal, you must shoot your shot" Bitcoin is a great cryptocurrency and fear can discourage someone from reaching their destination. Some successful bitcoiners that you are seeing today also faces some challenges but they never give up easily.

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I don't waste time chatting with a bot but i think maybe keywords get flagged and i think "liable" might be one scumsucking lawyers would add so since this was copilot i decided to leave them a message.

On my oft referred to topic, Bitcoin banks, I am excited by the speed that I see things happening.

The exchanges have always been a fairly terrible Bitcoin bank. Some of them have turned out okay. Many of them have vanished into the history sometimes with people's Bitcoin.  Most of them KYC their customers and we have seen multiple disasters because of that.  Some of them seem to discriminate against some of their customers, force them to stop trading or even lock up their coins.  And yeah, there is a handful of them that have done good by their customers and are succeeding.  And there is no privacy here.

Then there are the ETFs.  These are at best the airliners of the Bitcoin banks. These are run by big companies which we already put a lot of trust into and it's arguable whether they are on our side or not.The safest travel id the sky. Probably the best place you can custody your corn if you want to make sure that it doesn't disappear. But if the plane goes down or is shot down or something is not going to turn out good.  No privacy here either.  Re-hypothecated? Are they really buying the Bitcoin? How can we tell?

And then there is the Chaumian mint Cashu Protocol, which is fascinating. It integrates with the Lightning Network, and Mints can issue digital bearer tokens that can be redeemed for Bitcoin over the Lightning Network.  The trade-offs are quite interesting. It is 100% custodial, sort of like wallet of Satoshi. And If the Mint operator disappears, so does your value.  But if you have a mint operator you feel like you can trust, then you gain some things as well. It had potentially one of the best form of privacy.  And you can create tokens once they are spent the transaction is final or you can create vouchers to give to your cousin Emily and when she doesn't cash in her Bitcoin you could just revoke it and claw the Bitcoin back.  All very interesting things and changes to the way that Bitcoin on the base layer works. The potential for a rug pull is non-zero for sure.

There is a protocol called fediments, which is similar, but works on a federated mint model, which is more like how liquid works. But unfortunately, this project seems to have stalled out or slowed in its development and is behind.

Then there is strike and there are other companies coming out with products very similar to strike.  I would say Cashapp have set the bar for this.  These types of implementations allow you to use your application like a Bitcoin wallet and send Bitcoin via the lightning network or the base chain. But they custody everything and also they'll offer other things like loans that are collateralized. And debit cards. Here's where we will get into some of the stuff Hal talked about. Whether those loans are fully backed and not. Mallers posting videos talking about how his Bitcoin will not be re-hypothenated just recently.  No privacy here, full KYC, and you could be rugged.

And, as probably most of you know, my favorite still is liquid, which is a federated blockchain-based Bitcoin clone, basically. That implements some of Monero's privacy.  This trust model is very interesting. You have multiple companies that all run nodes and hold keys. Everything is done via multi-sig. It's not completely decentralized, but the trust is distributed somewhat.  Really delving into the attack surface is difficult because this is not the simple single center type setup that we see with things like most of what's above. This inherits the most bitcoins to trust model.  It's also capable of doing smart contracts on a layer that makes the most sense, away from Bitcoin, but tethered to Bitcoin.

It's interesting because what we're seeing now is that a lot of these protocols/systems/apps are being combined with the lightning network which almost makes the list as well but not quite.

I don't know why I type so much.

Say the safe word if JJG is holding you hostage.

I smell a default maybe 2027.

maybe btc will save us.