Statistically speaking, Innosilicon has the most efficient Litecoin miner on the market still from what I've seen. Inno claims 1.21 KW/MHS which is slightly better than 1.36 KW/MHS as claimed buy the "wolf" miner when talking about efficiency.

Again, as history repeats itself here, Bitmain is again the cheaper, (arguably more reliable from what I've hear) alternative with their L3+, but less efficient in comparison at 1.59 KW/MHS

Summary in order of most efficient to least efficient (most likely also most expensive to least expensive but I'm guessing here):
- 1.21 KW/MHS = Innosilicon A4+
- 1.36 KW/MHS = "wolf" miner (http://1stminingrig.com/litecoin-scrypt-asic-miner-wolf-review-1-2-ghs/)
- 1.59 KW/MHS = Bitmain L3+
- 1.73 KW/MHS = BW-L21 (https://bt.irlbtc.com/view/1918895.0)

So far, the Litecoin scene is looking VERY familiar.

It is very possible that there is a more efficient Litecoin miner available, but I haven't seen it yet. If anybody finds one I would love to know about it.

dash was 480 few minutes ago damn i wish it increased more

in my opinion it's bitcoin, bitcoin price is going low also bitcoin cash was 2200 today now both down so i thing people who dumping bitcoin and bitcoin cash because of price they are buying dash. it's not really good because when bitcoin recovers they will buy bitcoin with dash so there that

i dont see other reason, people who dump btc most likely buy another crypto so 6 hours ago it was bcc now it's dash. it increases price of that crypto and after that u can dump again and invest in another crypto to increase it's price and so on

and if u have huge amounts u can really make impact like that, so other people do same thing untill u dump again it's really makes sense

and yes it's speculation but it makes sense

Those people including me who just entered in dash mining first time and have purchased d3 will not sell dash cheaply and will hold thus decreasing the supply and in this case price will follow hashrate. The dash network will increase more with the supply of A5 and remaining d3 for Nov delivery so IMO dash price will rise more until it is reasonably profitable for mining and reasonable is 8 to 10$ per day and not expecting $ 40 per day

DASH, nor any other protocol's price, will NOT rise because "miners" don't sell it. It will rise because it is a SOLID, USEFUL and ROBUST solution to many needs in the Crypto space. Why can't people get this through their heads? More people are mining DASH now than ever before. Look what the price has done. $280.00 to $445.00. All the while short sighted uneducated "miners" crying and whining, telling other miners NOT to sell their DASH. HAHAHA!! Price is determined by sound fundamentals and basic supply and demand. More buyers, price goes up. More sellers, price goes down. It's just that simple.

At that point, would you not agree that buying Dash outright is more profitable that mining Dash at a loss?
Hoping for a price increase is a horrible mining strategy. If you are so confident that the value of Dash will go up, then buy bother mining it? Why not just buy it now?

As Bitcoin Rejects 2MB Blocks, Dash Prepares to Implement Them

In early 2016, the masternodes that comprise Dash’s governance system voted overwhelmingly to upgrade to 2MB blocks, with 99 percent of the network in favor. Many in the cryptocurrency world saw this as a simple attention-getting gimmick, as Dash’s development priorities became focused elsewhere. However, with the recent release of Dash version 12.2, it looks like larger blocks will be implemented soon.

The version 12.2 upgrade is one step on the way to Dash Evolution, the currency’s plan to make “digital [currencies] be so easy to use your Grandma would use them.” Core developer UdjinM6 wrote of the recent update:

The most notable changes are:

DIP0001 implementation (which is a 2MB block upgrade);
Transaction fee reduction 10x (activates via DIP0001 activation);
InstantSend vulnerability fix (activates via DIP0001 lock in);
PrivateSend improvement which should allow user to have mixed funds available much faster;
Various RPC changes;
Lots of backports from Bitcoin Core and refactoring of our own legacy code which should improve performance and make code more reliable and easier to review;
Experimental HD wallet with BIP39/BIP44 support.
Not needed yet
Of course, larger blocks aren’t needed yet, as the currency does not process enough transactions to fill its current blocks. However, this blocksize increase follows the on-chain scaling plan announced by founder Evan Duffield earlier this year. Duffield announced that through the use of custom hardware, Dash will create a network that can scale to large numbers of transactions by using big blocks.

Duffield wrote:

Many projects in the space believe that on-chain scaling is impossible. That’s simply because they haven’t explored alternative P2P architectures for higher performance. We intend to show just how far an incentivized second tier [masternode] architecture can take a project like Dash.

Bitcoin’s path...and Ethereum’s too
Bitcoin, of course, has chosen to follow a different path. With the planned SegWit2x upgrade officially dead, the currency is now firmly on the path of off-chain scaling through the lightning network or similar solutions. The lightning network is intended to work by moving transactions off-chain onto “payment channels” and then “settling” the result to the Bitcoin Blockchain periodically.

For instance, if Bob pays Alice one BTC, then he later pays her two BTC, and finally sends her 1.5 BTC, that’s three separate transactions that need to be recorded to the Blockchain. With lightning network, however, only the net transaction would need to be posted to the Blockchain once the payment channel was closed. In this case, only one transaction would be posted for a total of 4.5 BTC sent from Bob to Alice.

Critics have asked how often payment channels will really be used, but until the network is deployed, it’s impossible to say. Others suggest that moving transactions off-chain damages the decentralized and immutable nature of Bitcoin. Supporters point out that transactions happen off-chain all the time, for instance on exchanges. No Bitcoin exchange posts a separate transaction to the Blockchain every time funds are moved internally. Only the final result is posted, once a user withdraws funds.

Number two cryptocurrency Ethereum isn’t just sitting on the sidelines, either. The currency plans to implement the “Raiden Network” which will utilize payment channels similar to Bitcoin’s proposed lightning network.

Forks welcome
While Bitcoin assiduously avoids hard forks whenever possible, Dash welcomes them. The key to Dash’s upgrade strategy is the “spork” a mechanism that allows portions of the upgrade to be “turned off” if there is a problem on the network. An example is something called “enforcement.” The Dash network normally requires miners to share the block reward with masternodes; miners who attempt to keep the entire reward to themselves will find their blocks rejected by the network.

However, during an upgrade, enforcement can (and usually is) be turned off. This allows both miners and masternodes a reasonable amount of time to upgrade their software while eliminating the risk of uncontrollable forking caused by one part of the network rejecting the other part.

Best path uncertain
It remains to be seen whether Bitcoin, Ethereum or Dash will be successful in solving the scalability problem. Both the “payment channels” and “really big blocks” scaling methods have their critics, and neither has been thoroughly vetted yet. It’s possible that another solution might emerge in the interim, or that both solutions could be workable.

The one thing that’s certain, however, is that for digital currency to become a real force in the world, tens of thousands of people will need to be able to transact all at the same time. A successful mainstream cryptocurrency must be able to scale to Visa’s level or beyond.

DASH is at $500 that's Why!! Can someone please explain why this hasn't raised the miners payments? Yes I know it's down to difficulty but all these transactions??