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    August 13, 2014, 05:28:05 PM
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    Quote from: Skaia on August 13, 2014, 12:50:32 PM
    Quote from: lunokhod2 on August 13, 2014, 12:32:42 PM
    Here is an interesting idea from the Monero thread: I too have been annoyed that the none of the clients out there (including anoncoin) check to see if a new version/update is available.

    Quote from: fluffypony on August 13, 2014, 11:20:07 AM
    Quote from: NeuroticFish on August 13, 2014, 10:51:15 AM
    It's not the first currency where I tell this: one of the first features of a wallet should be to check, at least at start-up, if it's outdated and tell the user to update. There will always be 2 version numbers available: last known version and last mandatory version.
    It's not difficult to implement and even the command line wallet can have that check.

    Ohwell, maybe in the next version Smiley

    Well, the thing is, we don't want the daemon making non-p2p connections unless explicitly allowed by the user, so checking via the web is a no-go. What we *can* do is add functionality where if > 58% of connected peers (ie. 7 of the standard 12 max) are on a newer version, notify the user that a new version is available. Peers can indicate the last mandatory version, too, and if you're on a version < that version the daemon can pump out lots of warnings, and simplewallet can have an additional confirmation dialog for every transaction before sending.

    Interesting. It would be very useful to add this feature to next wallet.

    I'm gonna look closer on this. But GF rage so later after a walk Smiley
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    August 13, 2014, 08:47:26 PM
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    Quote from: Skaia on August 13, 2014, 12:50:32 PM
    Quote from: lunokhod2 on August 13, 2014, 12:32:42 PM
    Here is an interesting idea from the Monero thread: I too have been annoyed that the none of the clients out there (including anoncoin) check to see if a new version/update is available.

    Quote from: fluffypony on August 13, 2014, 11:20:07 AM
    Quote from: NeuroticFish on August 13, 2014, 10:51:15 AM
    It's not the first currency where I tell this: one of the first features of a wallet should be to check, at least at start-up, if it's outdated and tell the user to update. There will always be 2 version numbers available: last known version and last mandatory version.
    It's not difficult to implement and even the command line wallet can have that check.

    Ohwell, maybe in the next version Smiley

    Well, the thing is, we don't want the daemon making non-p2p connections unless explicitly allowed by the user, so checking via the web is a no-go. What we *can* do is add functionality where if > 58% of connected peers (ie. 7 of the standard 12 max) are on a newer version, notify the user that a new version is available. Peers can indicate the last mandatory version, too, and if you're on a version < that version the daemon can pump out lots of warnings, and simplewallet can have an additional confirmation dialog for every transaction before sending.

    Interesting. It would be very useful to add this feature to next wallet.

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    August 13, 2014, 09:59:24 PM
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    https://twitter.com/mikalv/status/499640228424851456 Cheesy
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    August 13, 2014, 11:16:55 PM
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    Quote from: Skaia on August 13, 2014, 12:50:32 PM
    Quote from: lunokhod2 on August 13, 2014, 12:32:42 PM
    Here is an interesting idea from the Monero thread: I too have been annoyed that the none of the clients out there (including anoncoin) check to see if a new version/update is available.

    Quote from: fluffypony on August 13, 2014, 11:20:07 AM
    Quote from: NeuroticFish on August 13, 2014, 10:51:15 AM
    It's not the first currency where I tell this: one of the first features of a wallet should be to check, at least at start-up, if it's outdated and tell the user to update. There will always be 2 version numbers available: last known version and last mandatory version.
    It's not difficult to implement and even the command line wallet can have that check.

    Ohwell, maybe in the next version Smiley

    Well, the thing is, we don't want the daemon making non-p2p connections unless explicitly allowed by the user, so checking via the web is a no-go. What we *can* do is add functionality where if > 58% of connected peers (ie. 7 of the standard 12 max) are on a newer version, notify the user that a new version is available. Peers can indicate the last mandatory version, too, and if you're on a version < that version the daemon can pump out lots of warnings, and simplewallet can have an additional confirmation dialog for every transaction before sending.

    Interesting. It would be very useful to add this feature to next wallet.
    This is not quite correct; if there is a outdated version, we (Meeh) will publish a network wide alert informing everyone with version X or lower to upgrade.
    Its not something new, it got invented by BTC
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    August 14, 2014, 02:06:19 PM
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    Quote from: K1773R on August 13, 2014, 11:16:55 PM
    Quote from: Skaia on August 13, 2014, 12:50:32 PM
    Quote from: lunokhod2 on August 13, 2014, 12:32:42 PM
    Here is an interesting idea from the Monero thread: I too have been annoyed that the none of the clients out there (including anoncoin) check to see if a new version/update is available.

    Quote from: fluffypony on August 13, 2014, 11:20:07 AM
    Quote from: NeuroticFish on August 13, 2014, 10:51:15 AM
    It's not the first currency where I tell this: one of the first features of a wallet should be to check, at least at start-up, if it's outdated and tell the user to update. There will always be 2 version numbers available: last known version and last mandatory version.
    It's not difficult to implement and even the command line wallet can have that check.

    Ohwell, maybe in the next version Smiley

    Well, the thing is, we don't want the daemon making non-p2p connections unless explicitly allowed by the user, so checking via the web is a no-go. What we *can* do is add functionality where if > 58% of connected peers (ie. 7 of the standard 12 max) are on a newer version, notify the user that a new version is available. Peers can indicate the last mandatory version, too, and if you're on a version < that version the daemon can pump out lots of warnings, and simplewallet can have an additional confirmation dialog for every transaction before sending.

    Interesting. It would be very useful to add this feature to next wallet.
    This is not quite correct; if there is a outdated version, we (Meeh) will publish a network wide alert informing everyone with version X or lower to upgrade.
    Its not something new, it got invented by BTC
    The alert of course would be useful, but I still think that it would be good if you could check (perhaps at startup) if you have the latest release, and then download it (via i2p), all from within the client. I'm sure that some people won't care when small updates are released, whereas others will really want to get the latest (perhaps useless) features.

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    August 14, 2014, 04:28:20 PM
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    Btw, https://twitter.com/i2p/status/499755192838279168 .. The discussion between me, zzz (i2p's main dev) and orignal (i2pd's main dev) about the implementation methods ANC will use has started Smiley ANC doesn't feel that far away from going default i2p transport. But there is still a lot to do before i2pd is perfect and stable. Getting to this milestone is awesome!
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    August 14, 2014, 07:45:14 PM
    Last edit: August 14, 2014, 09:39:33 PM by mullick
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    Hello everyone,

    Im currently investigating an issue with our ANC wallet where the blockchain isnt picking up the majority of our send transactions. We apologize it took us so long to spot the issue. But we are working hard on correcting it and getting the unconfirmed transactions pushed to the blockchain

    Some of them get confirmed after a simple restart of the daemon but others do not/ Ill keep everyone informed when I find the solution

    Thank you for your patience Smiley

    UPDATE:

    I think it comes down to transaction sizes. Our daemon is sending transactions that are too large to be accpeted into the chain. Im basing this on the fact that all unconfirmed send transactions have unusually high fees paid. Our default Txfee is .01 ANC and the mean over the last 1000 transactions is 0.10169169169169 which is why our withdrawal fee is set to .1 ANC

    Code:
    anoncoind listtransactions "" 1000 | grep -A 1 -B 4 '"confirmations" : 0,' | grep fee
            "fee" : -0.82000000,
            "fee" : -0.90000000,
            "fee" : -0.98000000,
            "fee" : -0.65000000,
            "fee" : -0.69000000,
            "fee" : -0.72000000,
            "fee" : -0.74000000,
            "fee" : -0.76000000,
            "fee" : -0.77000000,
            "fee" : -0.81000000,
            "fee" : -1.00000000,
            "fee" : -0.68000000,
            "fee" : -0.72000000,
            "fee" : -0.73000000,
            "fee" : -0.74000000,
            "fee" : -0.74000000,
            "fee" : -0.74000000,
            "fee" : -0.75000000,
            "fee" : -0.75000000,
            "fee" : -0.75000000,
            "fee" : -0.75000000,
            "fee" : -0.75000000,
            "fee" : -0.75000000,
            "fee" : -0.75000000,
            "fee" : -0.75000000,
            "fee" : -0.76000000,
            "fee" : -0.76000000,
            "fee" : -0.77000000,
            "fee" : -0.77000000,
            "fee" : -0.77000000,
            "fee" : -0.78000000,
            "fee" : -0.79000000,
            "fee" : -0.85000000,
            "fee" : -0.96000000,
            "fee" : -0.64000000,
            "fee" : -0.66000000,
            "fee" : -0.67000000,
            "fee" : -0.69000000,
            "fee" : -0.71000000,
            "fee" : -0.72000000,
            "fee" : -0.73000000,
            "fee" : -0.74000000,
            "fee" : -0.75000000,
            "fee" : -0.77000000,
            "fee" : -0.79000000,
            "fee" : -0.84000000,
            "fee" : -0.87000000,
            "fee" : -0.92000000,
            "fee" : -0.95000000,
            "fee" : -0.98000000,
            "fee" : -0.63000000,
            "fee" : -0.64000000,
            "fee" : -0.65000000,
            "fee" : -0.66000000,
            "fee" : -0.68000000,
            "fee" : -0.68000000,
            "fee" : -0.69000000,
            "fee" : -0.70000000,
            "fee" : -0.71000000,
            "fee" : -0.71000000,
            "fee" : -0.72000000,
            "fee" : -0.73000000,
            "fee" : -0.74000000,
            "fee" : -0.74000000,
            "fee" : -0.74000000,
            "fee" : -0.74000000,
            "fee" : -0.74000000,
            "fee" : -0.75000000,
            "fee" : -0.75000000,
            "fee" : -0.75000000,
            "fee" : -0.75000000,
            "fee" : -0.76000000,
            "fee" : -0.78000000,
            "fee" : -0.80000000,
            "fee" : -0.83000000,
            "fee" : -0.88000000,
            "fee" : -0.92000000,
            "fee" : -0.99000000,
            "fee" : -0.98000000,
            "fee" : -0.97000000,
            "fee" : -0.87000000,
            "fee" : -0.81000000,
            "fee" : -0.86000000,

    Our daemon is up to date so ill be going over the source to see if I can find anything that would cause this

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    August 15, 2014, 01:18:02 AM
    Last edit: August 15, 2014, 02:09:00 AM by fuckbuddy
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    For motto/slogan of AnonCoin I suggest: "In Zero Knowledge We Trust"

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    For non-USAmericans I shall add that its based on U$A dollar's: "In God We Trust"; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_God_we_trust

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    August 15, 2014, 05:09:16 PM
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    Someone locked this thread??  Cheesy

    If you didn't know, now is good time to switch btc to ANC,
    and ofc best thing for DRK fans is to sell DRK asap, and support ANC, future of anonymity.
    DRK scam bring fortune to devs, now it is time that you think of yourself.

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    Pablo, welcome back!  You dump the price, now it is time to pump it back!
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    August 15, 2014, 05:25:00 PM
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    Well Well.

    The price is awful!
    I got to say, It leaves me a little puzzled... albeit all the work is being done for ANC and its GIT people don't seem to like it a bit!
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    August 15, 2014, 05:42:00 PM
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    Quote from: SmokingSkull on August 15, 2014, 05:25:00 PM
    Well Well.

    The price is awful!
    I got to say, It leaves me a little puzzled... albeit all the work is being done for ANC and its GIT people don't seem to like it a bit!

    I think ANC time is coming, based building is in progress.
    Do not worry much..

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    August 15, 2014, 06:48:27 PM
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    It is good to see Top address is doesn't stops from buying.
    If he shows here, I will donate him some ANC   Roll Eyes

    https://coinplorer.com/ANC/Addresses/AeJzyktipdu9e5vbpidETtoJ15oDqZ9QKR

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    August 15, 2014, 07:20:56 PM
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    News related to Anoncoin:

    https://geti2p.net/en/blog/post/2014/08/15/The-privacy-solutions-project
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    August 15, 2014, 08:06:11 PM
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    Quote from: SmokingSkull on August 15, 2014, 05:25:00 PM
    Well Well.

    The price is awful!
    I got to say, It leaves me a little puzzled... albeit all the work is being done for ANC and its GIT people don't seem to like it a bit!

    Alts drop further than BTC, but I think we will be dead in the water until release of zerocoin. The public needs to be woed, and doesn't trust that anc will deliver.

    Would be nice with a zerocoin update. Gnosis?

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    Quote from: Apraksin on August 15, 2014, 08:06:11 PM
    Quote from: SmokingSkull on August 15, 2014, 05:25:00 PM
    Well Well.

    The price is awful!
    I got to say, It leaves me a little puzzled... albeit all the work is being done for ANC and its GIT people don't seem to like it a bit!

    Alts drop further than BTC, but I think we will be dead in the water until release of zerocoin. The public needs to be woed, and doesn't trust that anc will deliver.

    Would be nice with a zerocoin update. Gnosis?



    We? :p

    That was hard words.. ANC will not die that easy, I think never will.
    I know you are stressed up, but we have many buyers who bought before few months, or when was 12$, for very at high, if you compare current price and they not complaining much..

    I think gnosis is done, meeh will make an update, soon I hope.
    Ofc maybe I'm wrong.
    But I hope there will not be update until they release final product!
    On that way, old hodlers will have more satisfaction.
    And dumpers will catching higher prices!
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    We? :p

    That was hard words.. ANC will not die that easy, I think never will.
    I know you are stressed up, but we have many buyers who bought before few months, or when was 12$, for very at high, if you compare current price and they not complaining much..


    Oh, I did not imply anc is dead or dying. Dead in the water means it is not moving forward, in this particular case in relation to price. I know the coin itself is in progress.

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    Quote from: Apraksin on August 15, 2014, 09:46:06 PM
    Quote from: drAGon925 on August 15, 2014, 09:23:44 PM


    We? :p

    That was hard words.. ANC will not die that easy, I think never will.
    I know you are stressed up, but we have many buyers who bought before few months, or when was 12$, for very at high, if you compare current price and they not complaining much..


    Oh, I did not imply anc is dead or dying. Dead in the water means it is not moving forward, in this particular case in relation to price. I know the coin itself is in progress.

    Yeah, I share your frustration -- I also wish it was even cheaper.  Grin Grin Grin

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    Quote from: Apraksin on August 15, 2014, 09:46:06 PM
    Quote from: drAGon925 on August 15, 2014, 09:23:44 PM


    We? :p

    That was hard words.. ANC will not die that easy, I think never will.
    I know you are stressed up, but we have many buyers who bought before few months, or when was 12$, for very at high, if you compare current price and they not complaining much..


    Oh, I did not imply anc is dead or dying. Dead in the water means it is not moving forward, in this particular case in relation to price. I know the coin itself is in progress.

    sry, didn't know that expression : )

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    August 15, 2014, 11:57:03 PM
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    A lot of people don't trust or respect the Anon branding.  My personal view is indifferent but I do admire some of their work.  Although there is a lot of uneducated and ignorant people waving that mask around even if it is with the best intentions.  Using official Anon branding may backfire, but it could also pay off if you get a lot of their hardcore supporters onboard with this project.  I've mentioned Anoncoin to a few of my hardcore crypto friends for a good while now and some of them are really put off by the fact that Anoncoin uses the official Anon branding.
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    Quote from: matthewh3 on August 15, 2014, 11:57:03 PM
    A lot of people don't trust or respect the Anon branding.  My personal view is indifferent but I do admire some of their work.  Although there is a lot of uneducated and ignorant people waving that mask around even if it is with the best intentions.  Using official Anon branding may backfire, but it could also pay off if you get a lot of their hardcore supporters onboard with this project.  I've mentioned Anoncoin to a few of my hardcore crypto friends for a good while now and some of them are really put off by the fact that Anoncoin uses the official Anon branding.

    https://twitter.com/TheAnonMessage had 83,600 followersuntil they got yanked yesterday.

    https://twitter.com/Crypt0nymous has 94,300 followers.

    https://twitter.com/YourAnonNews has 1,200,000 followers.

    And past articles like 2012 http://crooksandliars.com/diane-sweet/anonymous-beats-reddit-win-time-100-po show the collective has quite a lot of grass roots.

    Are your friends put off by what exactly?

    http://freedomoutpost.com/2014/02/false-flag-operations-exposed-new-snowden-leaks-show-spy-agencies-disrupt-discredit-dissent/

    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2012/02/21/nsa-speculates-anonymous-could-cause-power-outages-with-cyberattacks/
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