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    March 09, 2014, 10:02:22 PM
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    Quote from: CHAOSiTEC on March 09, 2014, 09:54:25 PM
    i followed this:
    -- Download ADL From http://developer.amd.com/tools-and-sdks/graphics-development/display-library-adl-sdk/
    -- Unzip and copy files from include/* to sgminers/ADL_SDK/ folder
    [/quote]

    I did that.

    Quote from: moar lies
    anon@desktop:~/drk/sph-sgminer$ cd ADL_SDK/
    anon@desktop:~/drk/sph-sgminer/ADL_SDK$ ls
    adl_defines.h  adl_sdk.h  adl_structures.h  readme.txt
    anon@desktop:~/drk/sph-sgminer/ADL_SDK$ cat readme.txt
    Please insert AMD ADL files adl_defines.h adl_sdk.h adl_structures.h here.

    They can be found at
    http://developer.amd.com/tools-and-sdks/graphics-development/display-library-adl-sdk/


    Quote from: CHAOSiTEC on March 09, 2014, 09:54:25 PM
    libtoolize
    autoreconf -ivf
    CFLAGS="-O2 -Wall -march=native" ./configure

    This is where it fails, again...

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    ....losts of stuff....
    config.status: creating src/Makefile
    config.status: creating src/jansson_config.h
    config.status: creating config.h
    config.status: config.h is unchanged
    config.status: executing depfiles commands
    config.status: executing libtool commands

    ------------------------------------------------------------------------
    sgminer 4.1.0
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Configuration Options Summary:

      Use git version......: yes
      libcurl(GBT+getwork).: Enabled: -lcurl 
      curses.TUI...........: FOUND: -lncurses
      OpenCL...............: NOT FOUND. GPU mining support DISABLED
    configure: error: OpenCL not found

    Even thought I can plainly see that this is a lie because:

    Quote from: damn lies
    bash:~/drk/sph-sgminer$ lsusr/lib/libOpenCL* -lah
    lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  47 Mar  9 16:30usr/lib/libOpenCL.so ->etc/alternatives/x86_64-linux-gnu_libOpenCL.so
    -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 31K Mar  9 16:34usr/lib/libOpenCL.so.1


    Quote from: CHAOSiTEC on March 09, 2014, 09:54:25 PM
    sudo make

    I never get this far.
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    March 09, 2014, 10:03:55 PM
     #7522
    Quote from: matthewh3 on March 09, 2014, 08:15:23 PM
    Quote from: bigrcanada on March 09, 2014, 06:30:27 PM
    Quote from: poornamelessme on March 09, 2014, 06:25:29 PM
    Quote from: djcrypto on March 09, 2014, 05:14:45 PM
    Quote from: eizh on March 09, 2014, 12:51:43 AM
    DRK has two big issues that I see:

    (1) Because the power draw is only 60% of scrypt, large GPU farms that mine altcoins and dump them for BTC/fiat have an incentive to target DRK. More profit even at price parity due to lower electricity costs. This will keep market supply high perpetually and hence keep the price low.

    (2) The legions of unremarkable clone-coins will implement DarkSend once it's open-sourced. See how zero-talent "devs" are copy-pasting Vertcoin's anti-ASIC adaptive N algorithm.

    For both (1) and (2) the solution is greater adoption. In the case of (1) it reduces these quasi-commercial dumpers to a smaller proportion of the market. In the case of (2), it allows DRK to achieve escape velocity and get to a point where a competing clone coin can't catch up due to lacking the network effect.

    So I see "marketing" as crucial, even in the short-term. In any case, DarkSend should probably be kept closed-source before hitting at least Bter and BTC38 (not that I'm in any position to advise devs). Call it an extended mandatory beta or something. Tongue

    I agree, well said.

    Personally, I don't think DarkSend should ever be open sourced. All it will result in are a ton of junk coins implementing it, and basically a ton of coins piggybacking on the dev's code here. Yes, if adoption was greater, then perhaps it'd make sense to open source. But to me, adoption means something like being able to be used for actual purchases somewhere.

    So if DarkCoin turned into Bitcoin, sure, consider open source. But that sort of adoption would take years. Instead, if it was me, perhaps a verified 3rd party could look at the code for safety types of reasons every so often, rather than just release all of the code for free.

    If the code is released, I expect the coin to drop in price ... a lot.

    At this point I absolutely agree.  We have no brand awareness and as my favorite saying goes... " never forsake the real for the ideal!"   DarkCoins world needs to be tightly branded and every kink work out.  It would be suicidal to release anything until this coin is burned into peoples mind as the "NAME" in crypto security.

    No Cryptoanarchist worth their salt would put their privacy and security in trust of any software that was closed-source.  You just don't get the idea why opensource software is so much more secure than anything closed-source.  


    I think we should first get DarkSend working properly, release a stable binary version, then we'll find a few researchers/software developers to do an audit of the code. This way we can build a community and establish ourselves so we'll have the network to support the coin after DarkSend is open-sourced.
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    March 09, 2014, 10:04:23 PM
     #7523
    Quote from: matthewh3 on March 09, 2014, 08:15:23 PM
    Quote from: bigrcanada on March 09, 2014, 06:30:27 PM
    Quote from: poornamelessme on March 09, 2014, 06:25:29 PM
    Quote from: djcrypto on March 09, 2014, 05:14:45 PM
    Quote from: eizh on March 09, 2014, 12:51:43 AM
    DRK has two big issues that I see:

    (1) Because the power draw is only 60% of scrypt, large GPU farms that mine altcoins and dump them for BTC/fiat have an incentive to target DRK. More profit even at price parity due to lower electricity costs. This will keep market supply high perpetually and hence keep the price low.

    (2) The legions of unremarkable clone-coins will implement DarkSend once it's open-sourced. See how zero-talent "devs" are copy-pasting Vertcoin's anti-ASIC adaptive N algorithm.

    For both (1) and (2) the solution is greater adoption. In the case of (1) it reduces these quasi-commercial dumpers to a smaller proportion of the market. In the case of (2), it allows DRK to achieve escape velocity and get to a point where a competing clone coin can't catch up due to lacking the network effect.

    So I see "marketing" as crucial, even in the short-term. In any case, DarkSend should probably be kept closed-source before hitting at least Bter and BTC38 (not that I'm in any position to advise devs). Call it an extended mandatory beta or something. Tongue

    I agree, well said.

    Personally, I don't think DarkSend should ever be open sourced. All it will result in are a ton of junk coins implementing it, and basically a ton of coins piggybacking on the dev's code here. Yes, if adoption was greater, then perhaps it'd make sense to open source. But to me, adoption means something like being able to be used for actual purchases somewhere.

    So if DarkCoin turned into Bitcoin, sure, consider open source. But that sort of adoption would take years. Instead, if it was me, perhaps a verified 3rd party could look at the code for safety types of reasons every so often, rather than just release all of the code for free.

    If the code is released, I expect the coin to drop in price ... a lot.

    At this point I absolutely agree.  We have no brand awareness and as my favorite saying goes... " never forsake the real for the ideal!"   DarkCoins world needs to be tightly branded and every kink work out.  It would be suicidal to release anything until this coin is burned into peoples mind as the "NAME" in crypto security.

    No Cryptoanarchist worth their salt would put their privacy and security in trust of any software that was closed-source.  You just don't get the idea why opensource software is so much more secure than anything closed-source.  
    I couldn't agree more. Well put.

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    March 09, 2014, 10:11:17 PM
     #7524
    Quote from: anonymousxx1503 on March 09, 2014, 09:58:02 PM
    Quote from: Honest Tim on March 09, 2014, 09:55:47 PM
    Quote from: anonymousxx1503 on March 09, 2014, 07:46:25 PM
    I don't know who is running https://twitter.com/DarkcoinTweets but you've got a bunch of things wrong - Neither @Darkcoin or @DRK are related to Darkcoin in any way. Please correct that.

    I opened the @DRKCOIN twitter account very early on but the devs got it blocked/banned quickly in favor of their @darkcoincrypto account. Mine looked a bit too official anyways, although I had the best intentions as far as marketing goes. Had no problem handing it over either of course.

    sorry, I'm not up to speed with reddit twitter 1503. Does this mean that it's basically BS?

    I'm sure the person behind it has no ill intentions - just that that for some reason he's linking to other twitter accounts which have nothing to do with darkcoin. He should be linking to the offical twitter if anything.

    I hear you, but I don't understand.......
    I just mean, is it completely bogus that the armory are accepting darkcoin?

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    March 09, 2014, 10:11:34 PM
     #7525
    Quote from: camosoul on March 09, 2014, 10:02:22 PM
    Quote from: CHAOSiTEC on March 09, 2014, 09:54:25 PM
    sudo make

    I never get this far.

    Install windows already.. at least then everything just works.

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    March 09, 2014, 10:14:45 PM
     #7526
    Quote from: illodin on March 09, 2014, 10:11:34 PM
    Quote from: camosoul on March 09, 2014, 10:02:22 PM
    Quote from: CHAOSiTEC on March 09, 2014, 09:54:25 PM
    sudo make

    I never get this far.

    Install windows already.. at least then everything just works.

    Yeah, I never thought I'd say it, but Microsoft seems to be doing a much better job of pretty much everything computer... What the hell happened?
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    March 09, 2014, 10:15:16 PM
     #7527
    Quote from: camosoul on March 09, 2014, 10:02:22 PM
    Quote from: CHAOSiTEC on March 09, 2014, 09:54:25 PM
    i followed this:
    -- Download ADL From http://developer.amd.com/tools-and-sdks/graphics-development/display-library-adl-sdk/
    -- Unzip and copy files from include/* to sgminers/ADL_SDK/ folder

    I did that.

    Quote from: moar lies
    anon@desktop:~/drk/sph-sgminer$ cd ADL_SDK/
    anon@desktop:~/drk/sph-sgminer/ADL_SDK$ ls
    adl_defines.h  adl_sdk.h  adl_structures.h  readme.txt
    anon@desktop:~/drk/sph-sgminer/ADL_SDK$ cat readme.txt
    Please insert AMD ADL files adl_defines.h adl_sdk.h adl_structures.h here.

    They can be found at
    http://developer.amd.com/tools-and-sdks/graphics-development/display-library-adl-sdk/


    Quote from: CHAOSiTEC on March 09, 2014, 09:54:25 PM
    libtoolize
    autoreconf -ivf
    CFLAGS="-O2 -Wall -march=native" ./configure

    This is where it fails, again...

    Quote from: many lies
    ....losts of stuff....
    config.status: creating src/Makefile
    config.status: creating src/jansson_config.h
    config.status: creating config.h
    config.status: config.h is unchanged
    config.status: executing depfiles commands
    config.status: executing libtool commands

    ------------------------------------------------------------------------
    sgminer 4.1.0
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Configuration Options Summary:

      Use git version......: yes
      libcurl(GBT+getwork).: Enabled: -lcurl 
      curses.TUI...........: FOUND: -lncurses
      OpenCL...............: NOT FOUND. GPU mining support DISABLED
    configure: error: OpenCL not found

    Even thought I can plainly see that this is a lie because:

    Quote from: damn lies
    bash:~/drk/sph-sgminer$ lsusr/lib/libOpenCL* -lah
    lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  47 Mar  9 16:30usr/lib/libOpenCL.so ->etc/alternatives/x86_64-linux-gnu_libOpenCL.so
    -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 31K Mar  9 16:34usr/lib/libOpenCL.so.1


    Quote from: CHAOSiTEC on March 09, 2014, 09:54:25 PM
    sudo make

    I never get this far.
    [/quote]

    hmm what distro are you using
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    March 09, 2014, 10:16:24 PM
     #7528
    Quote from: camosoul on March 09, 2014, 10:14:45 PM
    Quote from: illodin on March 09, 2014, 10:11:34 PM
    Quote from: camosoul on March 09, 2014, 10:02:22 PM
    Quote from: CHAOSiTEC on March 09, 2014, 09:54:25 PM
    sudo make

    I never get this far.

    Install windows already.. at least then everything just works.

    Yeah, I never thought I'd say it, but Microsoft seems to be doing a much better job of pretty much everything computer... What the hell happened?

    actually, he tried windows first...
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    March 09, 2014, 10:17:21 PM
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    Quote from: CHAOSiTEC on March 09, 2014, 10:15:16 PM
    hmm what distro are you using

    Ubuntu/saucy (13.10) freshly installed just a few hours ago in desperation.
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    March 09, 2014, 10:20:00 PM
     #7530
    Quote from: CHAOSiTEC on March 09, 2014, 10:16:24 PM
    actually, he tried windows first...

    No, I haven't had a MS OS for almost 12 years now... Cut my teeth on old school gentoo, but this is just stupid... I hated gentoo for always being broken, waiting forever to build stuff only to find out it was borked... But come on! Ubuntu, binary.... This is just silly... Absolutely every single tiny thing that can be broken is broken... I feel like I'm building the whole thing from scratch, absolutely NOTHING works...

    Give up and try 12.04 LTS?
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    March 09, 2014, 10:22:50 PM
     #7531
    What is the output of

    Code:
    lddusr/bin/clinfo

    Or hop on IRC, will get it fixed in no time. Sorry to see you struggle. It shouldn't be this hard.

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    March 09, 2014, 10:25:50 PM
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    Quote from: tifozi on March 09, 2014, 10:22:50 PM
    What is the output of

    Code:
    lddusr/bin/clinfo

    Or hop on IRC, will get it fixed in no time. Sorry to see you struggle. It shouldn't be this hard.

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    bash:~/drk/darkcoin$ lddusr/bin/clinfo
       linux-vdso.so.1 =>  (0x00007fff4a98c000)
       libOpenCL.so.1 =>usr/lib/fglrx/libOpenCL.so.1 (0x00007f1b19fff000)
       libpthread.so.0 =>lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpthread.so.0 (0x00007f1b19de2000)
       libm.so.6 =>lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libm.so.6 (0x00007f1b19add000)
       libdl.so.2 =>lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libdl.so.2 (0x00007f1b198d9000)
       libgcc_s.so.1 =>lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgcc_s.so.1 (0x00007f1b196c3000)
       libc.so.6 =>lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6 (0x00007f1b192fa000)
       /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x00007f1b1a220000)

    Working Dir is changing around cuz I'm doing other stuff... Got the darkcoin-qt client to build again, woot, I can look at my stack of DRK! But sgminer is fail still... ./configure for sgminer is clearly not looking this up properly... Or saucy is hiding it in a weird place that the ./configure doesn't know to look in...
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    March 09, 2014, 10:29:55 PM
     #7533
    Quote from: camosoul on March 09, 2014, 10:20:00 PM
    Quote from: CHAOSiTEC on March 09, 2014, 10:16:24 PM
    actually, he tried windows first...

    No, I haven't had a MS OS for almost 12 years now... Cut my teeth on old school gentoo, but this is just stupid... I hated gentoo for always being broken, waiting forever to build stuff only to find out it was borked... But come on! Ubuntu, binary.... This is just silly... Absolutely every single tiny thing that can be broken is broken... I feel like I'm building the whole thing from scratch, absolutely NOTHING works...

    Give up and try 12.04 LTS?

    im running mint 16 here, based on ubuntu 13.04, had my problems with 13.10 dont know what they did with it, but something is fucked
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    March 09, 2014, 10:33:26 PM
     #7534
    Quote from: CHAOSiTEC on March 09, 2014, 10:29:55 PM
    Quote from: camosoul on March 09, 2014, 10:20:00 PM
    Quote from: CHAOSiTEC on March 09, 2014, 10:16:24 PM
    actually, he tried windows first...

    No, I haven't had a MS OS for almost 12 years now... Cut my teeth on old school gentoo, but this is just stupid... I hated gentoo for always being broken, waiting forever to build stuff only to find out it was borked... But come on! Ubuntu, binary.... This is just silly... Absolutely every single tiny thing that can be broken is broken... I feel like I'm building the whole thing from scratch, absolutely NOTHING works...

    Give up and try 12.04 LTS?

    im running mint 16 here, based on ubuntu 13.04, had my problems with 13.10 dont know what they did with it, but something is fucked

    Bluetooth is borked, audio is borked... Why are they pushing such a terribly broken OS as the latest and greatest?

    Downloading Mint 16 XFCE and Xubuntu 13.04...
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    March 09, 2014, 10:35:19 PM
     #7535
    Quote from: Honest Tim on March 09, 2014, 10:11:17 PM
    Quote from: anonymousxx1503 on March 09, 2014, 09:58:02 PM
    Quote from: Honest Tim on March 09, 2014, 09:55:47 PM
    Quote from: anonymousxx1503 on March 09, 2014, 07:46:25 PM
    I don't know who is running https://twitter.com/DarkcoinTweets but you've got a bunch of things wrong - Neither @Darkcoin or @DRK are related to Darkcoin in any way. Please correct that.

    I opened the @DRKCOIN twitter account very early on but the devs got it blocked/banned quickly in favor of their @darkcoincrypto account. Mine looked a bit too official anyways, although I had the best intentions as far as marketing goes. Had no problem handing it over either of course.

    sorry, I'm not up to speed with reddit twitter 1503. Does this mean that it's basically BS?

    I'm sure the person behind it has no ill intentions - just that that for some reason he's linking to other twitter accounts which have nothing to do with darkcoin. He should be linking to the offical twitter if anything.

    I hear you, but I don't understand.......
    I just mean, is it completely bogus that the armory are accepting darkcoin?

    No it's true. You can read it here: http://www.reddit.com/r/DarkNetMarkets/comments/1zz4h0/the_armory_new_currency_accepted_darkcoin/

    I checked their website and they accept Darkcoins as payment.

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    March 09, 2014, 10:45:42 PM
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    Yes I had to really work at getting latest 14.x beta + APP SDK 2.9 going on Ubuntu 13.10. AMD broke openCL so making it work was a nightmare for my 290x cards.

    Please try this

    Code:
    sudo apt-get install ocl-icd-opencl-dev

    and see if

    Code:
    sudo clinfo

    returns the card along with sgminer.

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    March 09, 2014, 10:53:56 PM
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    Quote from: tifozi on March 09, 2014, 10:45:42 PM
    Yes I had to really work at getting latest 14.x beta + APP SDK 2.9 going on Ubuntu 13.10. AMD broke openCL so making it work was a nightmare for my 290x cards.
    Please try this
    Code:
    sudo apt-get install ocl-icd-opencl-dev
    and see if
    Code:
    sudo clinfo
    returns the card along with sgminer.

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    bash:/usr/lib$ sudo clinfo
    libkmod: ERROR ../libkmod/libkmod-module.c:791 kmod_module_insert_module: could not find module by name='fglrx'
    ERROR: could not insert 'fglrx': Function not implemented
    Error! Fail to load fglrx kernel module! Maybe you can switch to root user to load kernel module directly
    libkmod: ERROR ../libkmod/libkmod-module.c:791 kmod_module_insert_module: could not find module by name='fglrx'
    ERROR: could not insert 'fglrx': Function not implemented
    Error! Fail to load fglrx kernel module! Maybe you can switch to root user to load kernel module directly
    X Error of failed request:  BadRequest (invalid request code or no such operation)
      Major opcode of failed request:  154 ()
      Minor opcode of failed request:  19
      Serial number of failed request:  12
      Current serial number in output stream:  12

    LOLWUT? lsmod disagrees... Also the fact that I CAN SEE STUFF RIGHT NOW! Lols, what a disaster.

    Ubuntu 13.10 [del]Saucy[/del] Shitty Salamander... This is fuckin' ridiculous. I appreciate you guys lending a hand, but absolutely nothing works and it's self-contradicting... This crap it's showing me can't be true. Since I already wiped the drive a few hours ago, I can afford to do it again and try something else.

    I'm reminded of that gag about Internet Explorer; the best browser for installing a new browser! The only good I've got to say about 13.10 is that unetbootin works... lols.
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    March 09, 2014, 10:58:07 PM
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    Quote from: jap1968 on March 09, 2014, 10:35:03 PM
    Quote from: mayday9 on March 09, 2014, 09:03:09 PM
    about the darksend open source dillema - how about this, the dev could put on darkcoin.io that the source will be made open once DRK reaches the price of $100 per coin. That would mean it's well established and known by then

    Maybe $20~$25 are more realistic numbers.

    In theory, there is no reason why DarkCoins can't be the same value as BTC, provided they are mostly used as a quasi third party mixing tool for BTC transactions, and Darkcoin holders refrain from selling excessive volumes of coins.

    That probably wouldn't work in reality, but its a similar point of view to concerns about market volatility when doing fiat>BTC>fiat.

    This points me to feel that $100 is a more realistic figure than $20.

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    March 09, 2014, 11:02:41 PM
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    Quote from: wonko86 on March 09, 2014, 10:35:19 PM
    Quote from: Honest Tim on March 09, 2014, 10:11:17 PM
    Quote from: anonymousxx1503 on March 09, 2014, 09:58:02 PM
    Quote from: Honest Tim on March 09, 2014, 09:55:47 PM
    Quote from: anonymousxx1503 on March 09, 2014, 07:46:25 PM
    I don't know who is running https://twitter.com/DarkcoinTweets but you've got a bunch of things wrong - Neither @Darkcoin or @DRK are related to Darkcoin in any way. Please correct that.

    I opened the @DRKCOIN twitter account very early on but the devs got it blocked/banned quickly in favor of their @darkcoincrypto account. Mine looked a bit too official anyways, although I had the best intentions as far as marketing goes. Had no problem handing it over either of course.

    sorry, I'm not up to speed with reddit twitter 1503. Does this mean that it's basically BS?

    I'm sure the person behind it has no ill intentions - just that that for some reason he's linking to other twitter accounts which have nothing to do with darkcoin. He should be linking to the offical twitter if anything.

    I hear you, but I don't understand.......
    I just mean, is it completely bogus that the armory are accepting darkcoin?

    No it's true. You can read it here: http://www.reddit.com/r/DarkNetMarkets/comments/1zz4h0/the_armory_new_currency_accepted_darkcoin/

    I checked their website and they accept Darkcoins as payment.

    Awesome then. Thanks Wonko. Dloaded tails a while back but still havn't got round to tor-ing it yet.
    At the risk of sounding cheeky, but for general community moral.....could a tor user possibly give us all a screen shot please. It really sounds like a genuine milestone and a picture speaks thousand words.

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    March 09, 2014, 11:08:09 PM
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    Quote from: eduffield on March 09, 2014, 10:03:55 PM
    Quote from: matthewh3 on March 09, 2014, 08:15:23 PM
    Quote from: bigrcanada on March 09, 2014, 06:30:27 PM
    Quote from: poornamelessme on March 09, 2014, 06:25:29 PM
    Quote from: djcrypto on March 09, 2014, 05:14:45 PM
    Quote from: eizh on March 09, 2014, 12:51:43 AM
    DRK has two big issues that I see:

    (1) Because the power draw is only 60% of scrypt, large GPU farms that mine altcoins and dump them for BTC/fiat have an incentive to target DRK. More profit even at price parity due to lower electricity costs. This will keep market supply high perpetually and hence keep the price low.

    (2) The legions of unremarkable clone-coins will implement DarkSend once it's open-sourced. See how zero-talent "devs" are copy-pasting Vertcoin's anti-ASIC adaptive N algorithm.

    For both (1) and (2) the solution is greater adoption. In the case of (1) it reduces these quasi-commercial dumpers to a smaller proportion of the market. In the case of (2), it allows DRK to achieve escape velocity and get to a point where a competing clone coin can't catch up due to lacking the network effect.

    So I see "marketing" as crucial, even in the short-term. In any case, DarkSend should probably be kept closed-source before hitting at least Bter and BTC38 (not that I'm in any position to advise devs). Call it an extended mandatory beta or something. Tongue

    I agree, well said.

    Personally, I don't think DarkSend should ever be open sourced. All it will result in are a ton of junk coins implementing it, and basically a ton of coins piggybacking on the dev's code here. Yes, if adoption was greater, then perhaps it'd make sense to open source. But to me, adoption means something like being able to be used for actual purchases somewhere.

    So if DarkCoin turned into Bitcoin, sure, consider open source. But that sort of adoption would take years. Instead, if it was me, perhaps a verified 3rd party could look at the code for safety types of reasons every so often, rather than just release all of the code for free.

    If the code is released, I expect the coin to drop in price ... a lot.

    At this point I absolutely agree.  We have no brand awareness and as my favorite saying goes... " never forsake the real for the ideal!"   DarkCoins world needs to be tightly branded and every kink work out.  It would be suicidal to release anything until this coin is burned into peoples mind as the "NAME" in crypto security.

    No Cryptoanarchist worth their salt would put their privacy and security in trust of any software that was closed-source.  You just don't get the idea why opensource software is so much more secure than anything closed-source.  


    I think we should first get DarkSend working properly, release a stable binary version, then we'll find a few researchers/software developers to do an audit of the code. This way we can build a community and establish ourselves so we'll have the network to support the coin after DarkSend is open-sourced.

    You "cryptoanarchists" are over doing it with wantinbg everything to be open soucre, I agree that Darkcoin should be Closed Source until it has a huge user base like Bitcoin does, then you can open source, if the devs open source Darkxoin before that, this coin will become.overlooked and useless as others mimic Darksend.
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