US has now warned China for helping Russia.
There are so many superpowers involved in this invasion and the real purpose is unknown what they are looking for and what they want.

There does not seem to be a path to denuclearize the RF nor to convert it to a non-despotic regime. A no-fly zone does not achieve that objective. An attack to the RF territory (the original borders of course) is likely to achieve a gigantic escalation. For now, demonstrating that attacking other countries is expensive and does not pay (and may even cost Putin the government) is the way to have a future pacific behaviour.

Too expensive, to useless, to difficult, illogical, dangerous and risky - those are the words that must come to the RF Psychos mind when they think ever again of waging aggression in Europe. An that state of mind has to be achieved by demonstrating that RF is no longer a world power (in military terms that has been achieved) and that there is an economic and political price that is too high to consider in the future.

I think that most normally wired people tend to trust and respect people who do what they say and say what they do , and don't those who weasel around doing sneaky creepy things which harm others.  That's probably why Russia is gaining worldwide respect and the 'collective West' is losing it.

It is amazing to see how some cultures are so proud of things like using other third-party aircraft to hide behind when they do stand-off missile attacks, then are so pleased about how clever they are.  As if you need special 'chosen' brain-power to think up the strategy of using innocent third-parties as human shields.  Disgusting, and especially so because it only works when the adversary is somewhat ethical and resistant to harming said third-parties.

Sadly for the 'collective West' and the U.S. in particular, they are currently led/controlled/owned by people who have the sneaky-creepy mentality.  It makes us all look bad, makes it a lot harder to negotiate since it's pointless to make agreements with liars, and puts us all in danger.  It takes a long time to build a reputation as a straight-shooter and only a short time to lose it.

If I were a Russian, I would be pleased with Putin for at least developing Russia's reputation no matter what I thought of his politics.  I am an American, and I've been so disappointed by the reputation we've developed that I left the place.  At least that was one of the reasons.



Sneaky surprise attacks and denials against adversaries using hidden proxy forces pretty much guarantee an increased rate of 'spillover' as Russia, Iran, Germany(!) etc are unlikely to tolerated them indefinitely, but spillover and conflagration seem to be exactly what those who've attained power to call the shots in the West badly want/need.

This desperation on the part of the West for a response is probably why the strategists on the Russian side (and others) are biding their time.  Don't give the enemy exactly what they are in need of at the moment; do it at a latter date when retribution is not useful to them.  But do log the entry in a ledger.

Time is on the side of the Russian axis, and a large part of the reason why has to do with they being trustworthy partners with which to form an alliance.

You do not live in Ukraine. US was 20 years in Afghanistan, demoted Gadhafi in Lybia, demoted  Sadam in Iraq,... I think that Ukraine could live with Putin demoted as a result of this, so great examples thanks.

The US is right in sending war material to Ukraine. Much better to fight near the RF than in the Brandenburg gate (in Berlin) and certainly much cheaper than a new full-blown cold war.

Lmao, Russian reputation where people see them being good in falling from windows, totalitarianism, raping, torturing, slaughtering of their own people, oppressing, racist, corrupt, threat to a free world. Must be fun to be on the that side of the history. Just be glad that you won't have to deal with that on daily basis personally and you don't have to live near to them. It's easy being a coward from a distance.

Hopefully russian troll factories pays you guys enough because if you are doing that for free you are an useful idiot

I'm always surprised how these unfounded hot takes are coming from Putler apologists, who aren't from Europe and don't know anything about Germany.  
As someone from Germany, I can tell you that your claims are 100% laughable and wrong, dear bunny.  

Let's collect some reasons who could have blown up the pipeline (hint: Russia has blown up the pipeline):


Ukraine
Yeah, sure, it has been Ukraine!
Ukraine doesn't has access to the Baltic Sea, because it doesn't share a border (plz do at least some research about geographics), so Ukraine must have sent Klitschko on the back of a dolphin, a bit dynamite on his back and he started his mission in Odessa, where he swam through the Black Sea, past Istanbul, through the Mediterranean Sea, past Gibraltar along the coast of Portugal, Spain and France, through the English channel and his dolphin was re-charged in Amsterdam, that he finally swam past Denmark to dive several 100m to place his dynamite and blow up the pipeline by placing the dynamite all by his bare hands.
Ukraine doesn't has any capabilities to do this and it would be plain stupid to risk their military aid if their try to blow up NS is detected and Russia could be the big propaganda winner, so yes, it must have been Ukraine!  




USA UK Poland
For sure, USA UK Poland are behind it! It would make totally sense for them to blow up a useless pipeline because Germany didn't purchase any gas from Russia anymore at the time, when the pipeline was blown up.
It would make totally sense for USA UK Poland to do this after Putin messed it up himself, when he showed how unrealiable he has been as a partner when he lied to everyone that he wouldn't invade Ukraine.
It would make totally sense for USA UK Poland to do this because Germany planned anyways to stop gas purchases from Russia due to Putin's continued war.
It would make totally sense for USA UK Poland to blow up 2 pipelines from Nordstream 1 and 1 pipeline from Nordstream 2, while 1 pipeline of Nordstream 2 remains intact, so that russian gas delieveries would still be possible.
The USA UK Poland are completely ready to do such a move to gain exactly nothing from blowing up that pipeline, while risking their entire trust in NATO. No gain at all, but enormous risk, therefore, it must have been USA UK Poland!




Germany
Germany is behind it! Who else could it be? It's Germany because Germany is always at fault (because Nazis).

In a secret meeting, Olaf Scholz, chancellor of Germany, discussed together with Robert Habeck (economy) and Christian Lindner (a liberal).
Very concerned, Olaf Scholz asked for solutions why Germany has gotten so dependant on russian Gas. He asked: "Dear Gentlemen, we have a big issue right now. There are 10 Russia apologists demonstrating in Saxonia to open Nordstream 2. It's a very big issue. They aren't relevant at all and nobody listens to them anyways but we need to act. How can we stop it?"
Christian Lindner, the liberal, suggested: "we can nuke the Russia apologists in Saxonia." But Robert Habeck quickly objected: "that would be bad for our economy." He suggested instead: "Let's blow up Nordstream 1 and 2, we wouldn't solve any problems because we won't purchase any gas from Russia anyways and we are safe already that we have enough Gas for the upcoming winter, but we should blow up Nordstream 1 and 2."
Olaf Scholz objected: "that's a good idea but you need to consider that we are Germany and my party likes Putin somehow, it was Gerhard Schröder who got us dependant on russian gas and Schröder is on Rosneft supervisory board. We can't let him down. We should blow up 2 pipelines from Nordstream 1 and 1 pipeline from Nordstream 2, that Putin can still blackmail us to open it again and that Putin gets his prestige project, which he really cares about."
The other two: "that's not a good idea because it would not solve any of our issues. It wouldn't shut down the Putin apologist protests in Saxonia and questions about opening Nordstream 2!"
Olaf Scholz replied: "Do you have better ideas?"
The other two: "unfortunately not, but we won't gain anything from your strategy"
Olaf Scholz: "What did you say, I didn't hear you? Well, let's turn my suggestion into reality, dear Gentleman!"...
And they proceeded to blow up 2 pipelines from Nordstream 1 and 1 pipeline from Nordstream 2...

Sure, Germany must be behind it!




Russia
Impossible, Russia never does bad things! And Russia never lies!
Russia might have made a big mistake to start the war special military operation (because it wasn't succesful, which really angered Russia's trolls), and which Russia didn't want to start and it was only a coincidende, why Russia was amassing troops on the Ukrainian border for more than 2 months. So, it was completely unavoidable that these troops should also be used in the region (as cannon fodder).
However, since Russia invaded Ukraine performed a special military operation, which failed was regrouped because Ukrainians didn't want to get shot and enslaved liberated, the master strategist Putin has messed up completely and exposed Russia as what it is: a corrupt regional power.
The nation of Germany, previously highly dependend on russian Gas, got completely rid of russian gas due to Putin's war and Putin's prestige project Nordstream 2 was set to be a big fail once again.
What should Putin do with a useless pipeline? He was planning to proceed in his useless war, so he already know that Germany wouldn't purchase any russian gas as long as he and his cronies will stay in power.
Outin run out of options and by blowing up NS1 while leaving one pipeline of NS2 intact, he could try to blackmail Germany in case of a cold winter to finally open Nordstream 2 (from which one pipeline was left intact, surprisingly) and potentially send gas to Germany, which would be a huge propaganda victory for him in Russia.

In addition, maybe he wanted to divide the pro-ukrainian alliance against his war by sowing discord and relying on his conspiracy war criminal supporting trolls such like BAdecker or Branko to spread bullshit claims that Ukraine USA UK Poland Germany would be behind it. Because Putin knows how reliable his trolls are because his trolls are never blaming Russia (as we know from some idiots on Bitcointalk, right).  
In addition, maybe Putin just wanted to make sure that no Oligarch could decide to remove Putin and his cronies because a new government could stop the war in Ukraine + use Nordstream again for gas? (which would threaten Putin and make a removal of Putin more likely).
These are just coincidences and Russia has, with a huge margin, far the biggest potential to gain from their pipeline being blown up, which got useless anyways due to Russia's war against Ukraine.
So let's be fair, Russia might be lying all day but it's not Russia blowing up their useless pipeline.





Let me know which stories are plausible in your opinion.  

What makes you think that?  

Under Biden there have already been a bunch of Chinese sanctions related to supporting Russia in some way, not to mention the semi conductor sanctions to limit Chinas access to advanced computer chips and chip production.

https://asiatimes.com/2022/06/us-starts-sanctioning-china-for-supporting-russia/

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-01-26/us-targets-chinese-company-in-broader-russia-sanctions-push

https://www.bis.doc.gov/index.php/documents/about-bis/newsroom/press-releases/3158-2022-10-07-bis-press-release-advanced-computing-and-semiconductor-manufacturing-controls-final/file

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In other news.  There's some document floating around with very detailed plans on how Russia plans on making Belarus BellaRussia by 2030 and it seems like it could be authentic.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/russia-belarus-strategy-document-230035184.html

I'm sure he just wants Ukraine and Belarus though and will stop trying to take countries after that so we should just let him do his things and encourage Ukraine to surrender or better yet blame them for defending themselves...is what I would say if I was a brainwashed Kremtard.

Germany now taking full investigation to pipeline explosion
https://youtu.be/92sLZO--F60

You jokers are such conspiracy theorists. Hasn't tvbcof said over and over that he's not in favor of any of either the West or Russia? All he is doing is showing us what is really going on. Seems to me that he said he lives in the Philippines for crying out loud... just to get away from the dangerous jokers in the US, who are like you in actions rather than words.

And montaga's video listed above. Has anybody watched it? At about 6 minutes it has a list of a dozen things that have drastically increased in price over the last year, due to inflation. Where does this inflation come from? It comes from printing more money to give to Ukraine.

In the past, the idea of conspiracy theory might have been something like, "Russia good, the West bad." Now that it is turning out that the West is looking bad, the conspiracy ideas are changing. You US propagandists are the real conspiracy theorists.

I know it's you, so we can take it with a grain of salt because you jump around so much, but...

Now you are calling Russia wonderful for giving/selling nukes to Iran? You really are nuts.

It's bad enough that the US and Nato are pushing Russia into war, but you seem to like it that way. Are you moving to Russia yet? You'd probably be safe if you moved into the Urals. Mountains can block nuclear blasts, you know.