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    October 10, 2014, 04:23:32 AM
     #5001
    Quote from: tljenson on October 10, 2014, 03:51:44 AM
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    I just want to say with windjc out and with your decision to turn down funding for whatever principles they wanted you to go against.  I applaud you.  If I can get some bbr's cheap enough I may Smiley  Regardless of the price - your decision reconfirmed legitimacy.  I hope we can figure out the funding.

    Shall we change the project donation to 2-5% of the minted coins?

    I think a 'Coin Maintenance and Development' fee of 2-5% is not only justified, but required by circumstance.

    Charge the miners a 2-5% tax of each block of CZ's coin they find, to compensate him for his work and provide for the future of the coin.

    +1 Now that is more like it!!  Grin

    I must admit this is an ironic conversation about how to raise funds. The idea that CZ turned down would have actually paid the miners 10x more in tx fees than they currently make. Not taxed them.

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    October 10, 2014, 04:32:31 AM
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    Quote from: windjc on October 10, 2014, 04:23:32 AM
    I must admit this is an ironic conversation about how to raise funds. The idea that CZ turned down would have actually paid the miners 10x more in tx fees than they currently make. Not taxed them.

    Nobody except you cares about the scam CZ in which declined to participate.

    Don't you have search engines to optimize or something?   Grin

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    October 10, 2014, 04:34:08 AM
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    Quote from: iCEBREAKER on October 10, 2014, 04:32:31 AM
    Quote from: windjc on October 10, 2014, 04:23:32 AM
    I must admit this is an ironic conversation about how to raise funds. The idea that CZ turned down would have actually paid the miners 10x more in tx fees than they currently make. Not taxed them.

    Nobody except you cares about the scam CZ in which declined to participate.

    Don't you have search engines to optimize or something?   Grin

    Actually a lot of people care. You are just ignorant. Again. Don't you have some C++ code to write to secure the future of crypto?  Grin Grin

    And as far as your junior high school jabs at me about SEO, I have actually made over a million dollars in SEO related businesses that Ive own and/or sold. Its mainly how I acquired such a large crypto bankroll. Yes, a bankroll that Ive documented with screen shots in my post history, so dont ask me to provide any "proof." Go find it yourself.

    I'd love to know your business background and why anyone would want to listen to your random internet opinions. Im always open to learn from someone with a track record in something. Grin Wink

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    October 10, 2014, 06:11:23 AM
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    Rather than argue why not just use a spare cpu if you have one and mine straight to CZ's alias at clintar's pool you can just put @zoidberg in the little box and check how much has been raised.

    I don't think CZ is going to try and change things to ask for more, it doesn't seem to be his style. So if you want to support further development with no strings attached just do it. I see this as a way the community

    can show CZ that we can do more than just bitch about everything including each other. If you took the time read this thank you

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    October 10, 2014, 06:29:14 AM
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    Quote from: windjc on October 10, 2014, 04:34:08 AM
    I have actually made over a million dollars in SEO related businesses that Ive own and/or sold.

    Even a junior high school student knows SEO is one small step above spam.  I don't want BBR spamvertising individuals or search engines, TYVM.

    Spare us your dirty tricks and sketchy arrangements, and stop butthurting about the fact that CZ declined your 'offer he couldn't refuse.'

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    October 10, 2014, 06:53:50 AM
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    Quote from: iCEBREAKER on October 10, 2014, 06:29:14 AM
    Quote from: windjc on October 10, 2014, 04:34:08 AM
    I have actually made over a million dollars in SEO related businesses that Ive own and/or sold.

    Even a junior high school student knows SEO is one small step above spam.  I don't want BBR spamvertising individuals or search engines, TYVM.

    Spare us your dirty tricks and sketchy arrangements, and stop butthurting about the fact that CZ declined your 'offer he couldn't refuse.'

    You obviously don't even know what SEO is. lol. Spam? lol. You really don't even know the topic. Should have known. I wonder how hard Mike Hearn is laughing reading this thread.  Cheesy

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    October 10, 2014, 07:07:14 AM
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    Quote from: windjc on October 10, 2014, 06:53:50 AM
    You obviously don't even know what SEO is. lol. Spam? lol. You really don't even know the topic. Should have known. I wonder how hard Mike Hearn is laughing reading this thread.  Cheesy

    I've already told you exactly what SEO is:

    Quote from: iCEBREAKER on October 10, 2014, 06:29:14 AM
    SEO is one small step above spam.

    Have fun manipulating ranking algorithms for whatever coins are foolish and desperate enough to engage your slimy services.   Wink

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    October 10, 2014, 07:09:27 AM
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    Quote from: iCEBREAKER on October 10, 2014, 07:07:14 AM
    Quote from: windjc on October 10, 2014, 06:53:50 AM
    You obviously don't even know what SEO is. lol. Spam? lol. You really don't even know the topic. Should have known. I wonder how hard Mike Hearn is laughing reading this thread.  Cheesy

    I've already told you exactly what SEO is:

    Quote from: iCEBREAKER on October 10, 2014, 06:29:14 AM
    SEO is one small step above spam.

    Have fun manipulating ranking algorithms for whatever coins are foolish and desperate enough to engage your slimy services.   Wink

    Lol. Ive never offered such services to a coin.

    Good luck discrediting yourself with every post.  Wink Cheesy Grin Cool

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    October 10, 2014, 02:33:09 PM
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    Please calm folks. There is a place for SEO marketers AND C++ coders in this world. Maybe time to drop the argument.

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    October 10, 2014, 04:02:46 PM
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    windjc, cant you tell what really happened? seems only CZ and you know the truth but your 2 stories are contradicting each other. so people are left speculating

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    October 10, 2014, 04:14:04 PM
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    Quote from: darlidada on October 10, 2014, 04:02:46 PM
    windjc, cant you tell what really happened? seems only CZ and you know the truth but your 2 stories are contradicting each other. so people are left speculating



    How are they contradicting each other? People have made a lot of wild speculations, but CZ didn't imply any wrong doing at all. Just sounded like he just wants to continue doing exactly what he's doing now and not pursue other avenues. Which is perfectly fine of course.

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    October 10, 2014, 07:45:09 PM
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    Quote from: Este Nuno on October 10, 2014, 04:14:04 PM
    How are they contradicting each other? People have made a lot of wild speculations, but CZ didn't imply any wrong doing at all. Just sounded like he just wants to continue doing exactly what he's doing now and not pursue other avenues. Which is perfectly fine of course.
    zoidberg said he didn't think the suggestions boded well for BBR's future, which is probably why people think it's shady rather than simply alternative.

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    October 10, 2014, 07:59:02 PM
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    Quote from: maxcan on October 10, 2014, 07:45:09 PM
    Quote from: Este Nuno on October 10, 2014, 04:14:04 PM
    How are they contradicting each other? People have made a lot of wild speculations, but CZ didn't imply any wrong doing at all. Just sounded like he just wants to continue doing exactly what he's doing now and not pursue other avenues. Which is perfectly fine of course.
    zoidberg said he didn't think the suggestions boded well for BBR's future, which is probably why people think it's shady rather than simply alternative.

    No. He did not. He said he got an offer from some outside investors. He didn't think their offer boded well for BBR. He was working on an alternate plan - the one that I pre-announced - but decided not to go forward at this time. Its not completely off the table - or some variant thereof.

    People just like drama - so they make up words like "shady" to stir things up.

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    October 10, 2014, 08:17:00 PM
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    Quote from: windjc on October 10, 2014, 07:59:02 PM
    [quote  so they make up words like "shady" to stir things up.
    +1
    "Shady" is pure worst-case speculation since not enough details have been revealed. It could just be a diff in opinion what is a good business decision. For example, if the solution requires a hard fork, then the positives need to greatly outweigh the big negative, and this is subject to differing conclusions.

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    October 10, 2014, 09:02:38 PM
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    Quote from: windjc on October 10, 2014, 07:59:02 PM
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    How are they contradicting each other? People have made a lot of wild speculations, but CZ didn't imply any wrong doing at all. Just sounded like he just wants to continue doing exactly what he's doing now and not pursue other avenues. Which is perfectly fine of course.
    zoidberg said he didn't think the suggestions boded well for BBR's future, which is probably why people think it's shady rather than simply alternative.

    No. He did not. He said he got an offer from some outside investors. He didn't think their offer boded well for BBR. He was working on an alternate plan - the one that I pre-announced - but decided not to go forward at this time. Its not completely off the table - or some variant thereof.

    People just like drama - so they make up words like "shady" to stir things up.

    wow, i thought you were the outside investor. thats the reason of the misunderstanding. do you know what they wanted?

    if its true, it makes sense that you havent sold your BBR. They are the ones that must have sold it. Maybe it was bytecoin looking for a way-out of their mess?

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    October 10, 2014, 09:17:34 PM
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    Quote from: darlidada on October 10, 2014, 09:02:38 PM
    Quote from: windjc on October 10, 2014, 07:59:02 PM
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    How are they contradicting each other? People have made a lot of wild speculations, but CZ didn't imply any wrong doing at all. Just sounded like he just wants to continue doing exactly what he's doing now and not pursue other avenues. Which is perfectly fine of course.
    zoidberg said he didn't think the suggestions boded well for BBR's future, which is probably why people think it's shady rather than simply alternative.

    No. He did not. He said he got an offer from some outside investors. He didn't think their offer boded well for BBR. He was working on an alternate plan - the one that I pre-announced - but decided not to go forward at this time. Its not completely off the table - or some variant thereof.

    People just like drama - so they make up words like "shady" to stir things up.

    wow, i thought you were the outside investor. thats the reason of the misunderstanding. do you know what they wanted?

    if its true, it makes sense that you havent sold your BBR. They are the ones that must have sold it. Maybe it was bytecoin looking for a way-out of their mess?

    I do not know exactly what they wanted. I believe they were looking to change BBR in some dramatic way. Outside investors typically want a lot in return for their investment. I do not think CZ took them too seriously, although I can't and won't speak on CZ's behalf on that.

    The other option discussed did not require a hard fork and it would have paid miners more in tx fees. I haven't gone into detail about it because I hope it might be reconsidered at some point. And announcing the details of it wouldn't matter now anyway. In fact, some other coin could very well steal the idea.

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    October 11, 2014, 05:45:33 AM
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    CZ can you please elaborate on the deal that you did not accept? i.e. who specifically was the "outside" investor and what did they want?

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    October 11, 2014, 06:21:30 AM
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    Quote from: windjc on October 10, 2014, 09:17:34 PM
    I haven't gone into detail about it because I hope it might be reconsidered at some point. And announcing the details of it wouldn't matter now anyway. In fact, some other coin could very well steal the idea.

    Please fuck off with your high pressure sales tactics.  Nobody, least of all CZ, cares about your 'ACT NOW!!! THIS INCREDIBLE OFFER WON'T LAST LONG' infomercial BS.

    Google search 'shady SEO' --> 900K+ results   Cheesy

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    October 11, 2014, 08:26:01 AM
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    hey guys,
    is there a current working block explorer,Mingergate says the last block was found 5 months ago.

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    October 11, 2014, 09:02:10 AM
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    Quote from: iCEBREAKER on October 11, 2014, 06:21:30 AM
    Quote from: windjc on October 10, 2014, 09:17:34 PM
    I haven't gone into detail about it because I hope it might be reconsidered at some point. And announcing the details of it wouldn't matter now anyway. In fact, some other coin could very well steal the idea.

    Please fuck off with your high pressure sales tactics.  Nobody, least of all CZ, cares about your 'ACT NOW!!! THIS INCREDIBLE OFFER WON'T LAST LONG' infomercial BS.

    Google search 'shady SEO' --> 900K+ results   Cheesy

    Do you realize how silly you sound?

    Btw, how's your marketing campaign for Monero going? Your allegiance is so obvious it's a joke.

    Perhaps I should post the PM where you sent where you said if Boolberry kept its name you would start marketing for BBR.

    Apparently that was a big fat lie. Instead you are marketing for Monero and Duckcoin. And meanwhile just trolling this thread.

    People see you for who you are. And they keep talking about you to me. I just tell them to ignore you. Now I'll take my own advice.  Smiley
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