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Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - 0.8.8.6

April 10, 2015, 03:30:20 AM

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Quote from: smooth on April 09, 2015, 10:49:57 PM

Quote from: aminorex on April 09, 2015, 10:43:27 PM

...caution is advisable...

...you are actually a paranoid schizophrenic...

It's the elipses, I'm telling you, they're in it with the [quote]s. I think they communicate by piggy-backing on ordinary internet posts.

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Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - 0.8.8.6

April 10, 2015, 04:40:15 AM

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why would someone want to burn Monero? Huh

https://moneroaddress.org

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Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - 0.8.8.6

April 10, 2015, 04:46:52 AM

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Quote from: saddambitcoin on April 10, 2015, 04:40:15 AM

why would someone want to burn Monero? Huh

It's sort of like the preprogrammed lifespan in Blade Runner. You burn a bunch of Monero now leading to forced suicide later.

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Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - 0.8.8.6

April 10, 2015, 05:57:13 AM

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Quote from: smooth on April 10, 2015, 04:46:52 AM

Quote from: saddambitcoin on April 10, 2015, 04:40:15 AM

why would someone want to burn Monero? Huh

It's sort of like the preprogrammed lifespan in Blade Runner. You burn a bunch of Monero now leading to forced suicide later.

It's called a retirement plan.

https://infowars.wikia.com/wiki/Society_of_Control (competing visions--hedge accordingly) http://groups.csail.mit.edu/mac/classes/6.805/articles/crypto/cypherpunks/may-crypto-manifesto.html

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Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - 0.8.8.6

April 10, 2015, 08:06:29 AM

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Quote from: oblox on April 10, 2015, 12:17:18 AM

Quote from: fluffypony on April 09, 2015, 12:39:17 PM

Quote from: oblox on April 09, 2015, 12:20:35 PM

No dice on tewinget's branch. I do see a lmdb out of space error in addition to the uncaught exception but there is well over 11gb of free space, not factoring in the 3.4gb blockchain.bin that monero already takes up.

Ok I'm going to need more info -

1. What Windows version, and 32-bit or 64-bit?

2. What is the LMDB error, is it something like "MDB_MAP_FULL Environment mapsize limit reached" ?

1. 64-bit
2. This is all I have for the log, nothing as it relates to the limit you described:

2015-Apr-09 18:59:09.839062 Initializing cryptonote protocol...
2015-Apr-09 18:59:09.840062 Cryptonote protocol initialized OK
2015-Apr-09 18:59:09.840062 Initializing p2p server...
2015-Apr-09 18:59:26.854035 Binding on 0.0.0.0:18080
2015-Apr-09 18:59:26.854035 Net service bound to 0.0.0.0:18080
2015-Apr-09 18:59:26.855035 Attempting to add IGD port mapping.
2015-Apr-09 18:59:27.901095 Added IGD port mapping.
2015-Apr-09 18:59:27.901095 P2p server initialized OK
2015-Apr-09 18:59:27.901095 Initializing core rpc server...
2015-Apr-09 18:59:27.901095 Binding on 127.0.0.1:18081
2015-Apr-09 18:59:27.902095 Core rpc server initialized OK on port: 18081
2015-Apr-09 18:59:27.902095 Initializing core...
2015-Apr-09 18:59:27.903095 Loading blockchain from folder 0x401c9c8 ...
2015-Apr-09 18:59:27.904095 Failed to open lmdb environment: There is not enough space on the disk.

2015-Apr-09 18:59:27.904095 Error opening database: Failed to open lmdb environment: There is not enough space on the disk.

2015-Apr-09 18:59:27.905095 ERROR C:/msys64/home/user/bitmonero-blockchain/src/daemon/daemon.cpp:123 Uncaught exception! Failed to initialize core
2015-Apr-09 18:59:27.905095 Deinitializing rpc server...
2015-Apr-09 18:59:27.905095 Deinitializing p2p...
2015-Apr-09 18:59:27.907095 Deinitializing core...
2015-Apr-09 18:59:27.907095 Mining has been stopped, 0 finished
2015-Apr-09 18:59:27.909095 Failed to deinitialize core...
2015-Apr-09 18:59:27.910095 Mining has been stopped, 0 finished
2015-Apr-09 18:59:27.911095 Deinitializing cryptonote_protocol...

Thanks - that's much clearer:)

Problem: There's a lack of sparse file support on Windows, so Windows tries to reserve a full 16gb section on disk (ie. the entire MMAP)

Immediate Resolution: If you need to or want to continue testing you'll need to make sure you have at least 16gb available.

Permanent Resolution: We're making the MMAP allocation dynamic, so it'll start with a much smaller MMAP and then grow it accordingly.

Time Frame: Not the most complicated change, so we should be able to fix this and merge it into master next week.

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Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - 0.8.8.6

April 10, 2015, 08:19:12 AM

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Quote from: fluffypony on April 10, 2015, 08:06:29 AM

Perfect. In the mean time since this drive is the tailend of an SSD, can I specify a different disk with >16gb of free space on it with an argument at launch? If so, what would be the appropriate argument? I know with the BTC codebase, it's a matter of specifying -datadir, just wondering if there is an equivalent for cryptonote.

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Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - 0.8.8.6

April 10, 2015, 08:37:05 AM

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Quote from: oblox on April 10, 2015, 08:19:12 AM

I think it is --data-dir

But just run bitmonerod --help to make sure. Also remember to move your blockchain and bin files there.

I know I don't always do.

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Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - 0.8.8.6

April 10, 2015, 08:52:04 AM

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Quote from: papa_lazzarou on April 10, 2015, 08:37:05 AM

Quote from: oblox on April 10, 2015, 08:19:12 AM

I think it is --data-dir

But just run bitmonerod --help to make sure. Also remember to move your blockchain and bin files there.

I know I don't always do.

yep -

bitmonerod.exe --data-dir D:\waffles

Since you're synching from scratch you shouldn't need to move anything, and you can nuke %APPDATA%\Roaming\bitmonero

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Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - 0.8.8.6

April 10, 2015, 09:02:21 AM

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Quote from: fluffypony on April 10, 2015, 08:52:04 AM

Quote from: papa_lazzarou on April 10, 2015, 08:37:05 AM

Quote from: oblox on April 10, 2015, 08:19:12 AM

I think it is --data-dir

But just run bitmonerod --help to make sure. Also remember to move your blockchain and bin files there.

I know I don't always do.

yep -

bitmonerod.exe --data-dir D:\waffles

Since you're synching from scratch you shouldn't need to move anything, and you can nuke %APPDATA%\Roaming\bitmonero

Yeah, I figured that out shortly after posting it that the help would be the most obvious location to look. So really, it doesn't matter if you already have a synced blockchain.bin, it needs to rebuild the database anyway. It's syncing now.

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Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - 0.8.8.6

April 10, 2015, 09:29:48 AM

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Quote from: oblox on April 10, 2015, 09:02:21 AM

Quote from: fluffypony on April 10, 2015, 08:52:04 AM

Quote from: papa_lazzarou on April 10, 2015, 08:37:05 AM

Quote from: oblox on April 10, 2015, 08:19:12 AM

I think it is --data-dir

But just run bitmonerod --help to make sure. Also remember to move your blockchain and bin files there.

I know I don't always do.

yep -

bitmonerod.exe --data-dir D:\waffles

Since you're synching from scratch you shouldn't need to move anything, and you can nuke %APPDATA%\Roaming\bitmonero

If you did have a blockchain.bin, you could use the converter (or alternately, with lower memory usage, the exporter followed by the importer) instead of syncing, but syncing is fine too.

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Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - 0.8.8.6

April 10, 2015, 10:20:34 AM

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Quote from: osensei on April 09, 2015, 05:03:08 PM

... So in the case that MyMonero ceased to exist, you could still have access to your funds.

That is a good point. So, I understood that it is relatively but not absolutely secure. I'll give MyMonero.com a try to check out Monero.

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April 10, 2015, 10:44:23 AM

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Quote from: 5w00p on April 09, 2015, 11:20:59 PM

Quote from: aminorex on April 09, 2015, 10:43:27 PM

Quote from: Nassim Taleb

If you see fraud and don't shout fraud, you are a fraud.

Some caution is advisable in application. "If you see mind-controlled zombies who have replaced your coworkers..." you're probably just a paranoid schizophrenic.

Obviously you've never worked in government.

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and indeed, crazy people with ruling powers at my place over here, too. Pretty much so.

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April 10, 2015, 11:19:14 AM

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Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - 0.8.8.6

April 10, 2015, 03:18:41 PM

#22774

Quote from: tyz on April 10, 2015, 10:20:34 AM

Quote from: osensei on April 09, 2015, 05:03:08 PM

... So in the case that MyMonero ceased to exist, you could still have access to your funds.

That is a good point. So, I understood that it is relatively but not absolutely secure. I'll give MyMonero.com a try to check out Monero.

Also, as Arux said, you can create a wallet with simplewallet and use your 25 words seed to login to MyMonero. I though that for this you would have to pay 10 XMR, but that's only needed if you want to import your previous transactions, but since you would be using a newly created account there's no need to do that. So, this way you can use MyMonero but still access your funds with simplewallet if MyMonero is not available.

For this you would need to download the binaries and run simplewallet like:

Code:

./simplewallet --generate-new-wallet <your_wallet_file_name>

That will create your wallet and give you a 25 words seed. No need to run or sync the daemon.

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Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - 0.8.8.6

April 10, 2015, 03:25:47 PM

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Quote from: tyz on April 10, 2015, 10:20:34 AM

Quote from: osensei on April 09, 2015, 05:03:08 PM

... So in the case that MyMonero ceased to exist, you could still have access to your funds.

That is a good point. So, I understood that it is relatively but not absolutely secure. I'll give MyMonero.com a try to check out Monero.

For all newcommers to Monero that are used to Bitcoin, I think the best way to describe the safety tradeoff of MyMonero.com is to compare it to blockchain.info: it can't steal your funds (thus, there is no recourse if you forget your passphrase and your coins will be lost forever), but it can see what you send and receive.

Monero's privacy and therefore fungibility are MUCH stronger than Bitcoin's.
This makes Monero a better candidate to deserve the term "digital cash".

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April 10, 2015, 04:59:12 PM

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Monero Price rises again after a sharp fall down to 0.003 BTC

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April 10, 2015, 05:04:01 PM

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Quote from: razen489 on April 10, 2015, 04:59:12 PM

Monero Price rises again after a sharp fall down to 0.003 BTC

Cool.

What is interesting to me is that, due to BTC fluctuations, XMR has been sitting at $0.82 USD for several days now.
https://moneropric.es/

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Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - 0.8.8.6

April 10, 2015, 05:06:04 PM

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I have a question about MyMonero.com:

There is no way for me to get my coins from an account created there unless I send them from that account correct?

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April 10, 2015, 05:23:54 PM

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Quote from: Hueristic on April 10, 2015, 05:06:04 PM

I have a question about MyMonero.com:

There is no way for me to get my coins from an account created there unless I send them from that account correct?

I don't understand.

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April 10, 2015, 05:28:27 PM

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Quote from: Hueristic on April 10, 2015, 05:06:04 PM

I have a question about MyMonero.com:

There is no way for me to get my coins from an account created there unless I send them from that account correct?

Someone will have to correct me if I am wrong.

As I understand it, now (or eventually) you'll be able to load your MyMonero key into the wallet, or the GUI wallet, and you can send from there.

Think of it like this: The account is just that key, it can be loaded into MyMonero or a local wallet.

The key is the wallet, and whatever software can read that key can send the Monero in that key/account.

Now if I am wrong, please correct me!

Thanks!

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