I was cracking a joke but at the same time saying if the ideological devs could be scared away and replaced by G-MEN pretending to be ideological, similar what is sometimes alleged against Gavin and Mike Hearn.

Ideally you don't need any more core devs and the coin is done. But I realize that is probably unrealistic.

Smooth I agree complexity is the killer. One way to decrease complexity is separation-of-concerns. The base coin protocol should for example be as orthogonal as possible to the wallets. Ideally even the base coin protocol would be nearly orthogonal modules, such as:

* consensus subsystem
* transaction subsystem (drop in CN, CCT, or what have you, even use more than one at the same time)
* SPV client-server subsystem

Oh shit, I am sharing my design.

Backdoors can be minimized with clear semantic code, strongly typed language, detailed comments, and minimal code. Cryptographic critical paths should especially be documented line-by-line.

Such nirvana is easy to write down as a goal and hard-to-do.

Any way, I think code shouldn't be so boring. Should interest people just to study it for its elegance and semantic terseness. If I get bored with pedantic minutia reading code, I am usually gone. So that pretty much eliminates C as a language choice for me. After 5 MB of C and 68000 assembly source code I wrote in the 1980s, I think I had my lifetime's fill of that crap already.

Trademark attack?
https://forum.getmonero.org/20/general-discussion/320/monero-is-under-trademark-attack

I think I read about this on reddit or here a week or two ago. Anyone think this is srsbiznss? Just trolling?

well that's a novel "attack vector"

Let me know your thoughts Ladies and Gentleman!


@fluffy @smooth @GingerAle

What do you think about translating getmonero.org into traditional chinese?
We already have 675XMR pleged, so this would be an excellent oportunity to approach the chinese market with our beloved XMR  

It is great to see all these people working together to accomplish a goal. I know it is a great feeling for the developers to reach a point of critical mass.

It does however have a certain level groupthink (non-objectivity) attached to it, and people tend to emotionally marry the investments they feel a teamwork attachment to.

I don't know why I am making this comment. Perhaps I am saying I envy or relish the feeling of being involved in a great team result,  but also those damn black swans. C'est la vie.

Agree 100%, very important ideas here.  But I would like to point out, that you even see this ten fold in the culture around bitcoin.  (to the point of excluding alt coins, and to the point of coming up with 'ideas' for bitcoin, that have already been implemented in alt coins.)

Appreciate your insight.

Anyone guess when monero price will be up again? I was remember 38k-41k monero price on Poloniex at 31.03.2015.

Probably when the fiat -> monero markets come online, that'll see a nice surge.

Beyond that, this is for the speculation thread, but price will be up again when there are more people wanting to buy it than are willing to sell it.

Ohh, i still holding my moneroj for this big move. if this will happen, i sell my all xmr and I will buy a ticket to go to the moon.