Thanks a lot for your help. Actually i want to mine and start trading.

Be careful! These guys never appeared on any Bitcoin related conference and they prefer to stay anonymous. Their website looks unprofessional and so looks their "mining farm" http://ltcgear.com/shop/the-farm/  (is this really all they can show?).

So in short they can run with your money any time.

The best promised ROI does not help if your counterpart is non-existing. But xephyr likes to promote them on all threads without giving any warning to new users - for whatever reason

My contract at Genesis Mining returned 2% last week on Auto (BTC). Unless the price of bitcoin surges it will take the life of the one year contract to return my investment. I bought the minimum contract so I could speak from experience and counsel others not to waste their money.

If you do not trust ltcgear.com your other most profitable option right now is hosted mining at GAWMiners. They sell a hosted ZeusMiner 42 mH scrypt miner for $800 or about $19/mH. Not as good a deal as the $13/mH you can find at ltcgear.com but at least you should recoup your investment in 3 months then earn income. Even Wintermute can not dismiss the legitimacy of the company.

If you need advice on altcoin cloud mining from someone who only recommends companies he has real world experience with you are welcome to browse my altcoin cloud mining reviews.

Well, your listing is incomplete and far from up to date, which I would find acceptable if you didn't post it in just about every post you make.
Further more, in your forum message you say that "When considering buying altcoin cloud mining look for reputable companies with a history of good customer service", yet you don't give any weight at all in your considerations whether a company is recommended or not. Everything is solely based on costs and price, so why confuse people by saying reputable should be considered when you yourself don't?!

The more reputable a company is, the less risk. In general Unfortunately at a cost usually, which will impact roi. Some of the companies  you "recommend" have never even showed a working product, so there's a high risk which may even lead to a way more serious impact on roi (like total loss of investment). If you want to help newbies to the best possible roi then take such things into consideration. Products may be a scam, or will arrive months later. Bye bye newbie investment, bye bye any chance for a decent roi.

GM is costly, roi isn't as good as we all hoped for, especially since altcoin value is going to crap, but GM IS a reputable company and has good customer service and quality products, now and in the future. It's solid. New companies may be great at customer service, but I see quite a bit of one man operations out there, with a few customers, but also a lot of energy. Which is truly great. Customer service almost instantaneously! But will that remain the same when they've outgrown their one man operation to the extent where they can no longer deal with all customer issues themselves, but are not making enough yet to also fund the needed extra quality or customer service?! You don't need to worry about such things with companies like GM because they've already matured. Good quality and good service comes at a price and that price may be worth it.

Posting outdated lists in every thread and pointing beginners to doubtful websites with the "high ROI argument" is highly irresponsible (Xephyr you should at least mention the risks in your list). Makes me sad if someone follows this bad advice.

Ok. Thanks for the info. The GM multi-pool generally performs very well against all other multi-pools, but there are daily variations for different reasons. I will have a look.

This pricing discussion is enerving. Xephyr appears to be paid for ads, GM appears to be a bit more expensive than others but trusted and with good service.
Nothing else to discuss on that, readers believe what they believe anyways...

How about more coin votings or more silent additions?
Can you move the polls away from FB please?

Any news on X11 and Sha starting dates? Any pricing infos?

The link of the farm you provided does not work for me, or is it just me?

So, choose between an unsure fast roi or sure quite slow roi.
I think the time required in getting roi varies depends on what coin you will mine.

I cam ensure you that you can start mining with Genesis-mining. A lot of people are mining with Genesis and they are making good amount of profit. You can visit their site.