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    February 10, 2019, 06:19:26 AM
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    Quote from: Peeps Place on February 08, 2019, 07:04:51 AM
    There are a few cases hurting their reputation. Two in which not only were winnings confiscated, but deposits were confiscated.  Pay a player and then ban him if you don't like his actions.

    When comparing Sportsbet to other books, Sportsbet is at or near the bottom. Sportsbet asks for KYC information more than other books. Sportsbet has the worst or near the bottom in margins (hold).

    A rating system compares books to each other. Why should anyone play at Sportsbet?
    Honestly I wouldn't know about their ways if I didn't check this place. I have seen their problems only here and then go out and checked and saw it, I personally didn't have much problems with them because I haven't played too much (just two games so far) and usually go with either nitrogen or onehash because they seem like the best at what they do (nitrogen as the best and onehash as the best pvp system and sometimes there are lucky bets) and even with that in mind I love checking here before I place a big bet.

    We can't always check out the websites and what they have done and how they are and so forth ourselves so its great to have it all combined in once place under on topic so we can easily access to all their good and bad deeds. This helps checking out before playing very quick and doesn't take time at all to just look at one message.

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    February 11, 2019, 10:35:03 AM
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    Quote from: Supercrypt on February 10, 2019, 06:19:26 AM
    Quote from: Peeps Place on February 08, 2019, 07:04:51 AM
    There are a few cases hurting their reputation. Two in which not only were winnings confiscated, but deposits were confiscated.  Pay a player and then ban him if you don't like his actions.

    When comparing Sportsbet to other books, Sportsbet is at or near the bottom. Sportsbet asks for KYC information more than other books. Sportsbet has the worst or near the bottom in margins (hold).

    A rating system compares books to each other. Why should anyone play at Sportsbet?
    Honestly I wouldn't know about their ways if I didn't check this place. I have seen their problems only here and then go out and checked and saw it, I personally didn't have much problems with them because I haven't played too much (just two games so far) and usually go with either nitrogen or onehash because they seem like the best at what they do (nitrogen as the best and onehash as the best pvp system and sometimes there are lucky bets) and even with that in mind I love checking here before I place a big bet.

    We can't always check out the websites and what they have done and how they are and so forth ourselves so its great to have it all combined in once place under on topic so we can easily access to all their good and bad deeds. This helps checking out before playing very quick and doesn't take time at all to just look at one message.

    That said, does anyone else have any problems or other experiences, good or bad to share from any book?

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    February 11, 2019, 12:59:20 PM
    Last edit: February 11, 2019, 03:10:02 PM by Barnstorm
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    BitcoinRush should be a level ahead of Nitrogen and Betcoin.ag.

    BitcoinRush has much better odds than Nitrogen or Betcoin.ag. BitcoinRush odds are identical to Pinnacle!

    BitcoinRush also has a much better website and interface than Nitrogen. I can't believe Nitrogen hasn't upgraded their website. Very clunky.

    I play at Fairlay because they have Pinnacle odds and a greater selection of matches and alternate odds than all of them.

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    February 11, 2019, 01:58:22 PM
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    May I ask what made bitcoinrush to drop in the rating? Not to defend them or anything don't get me wrong, I have no relation, I just play there time to time and I want to know the reason so maybe I will withdraw from playing there as well. I am checking and last time I checked it was A- and now its B+ and even tough its not a big change it still shows here and dropping from the A team to B makes it more obvious so one obviously wonders why it happened since it can't be for nothing.

    When you are posting your new listings with new ratings, it would be suuuperb if you could also share why a place went up or why a place went down so we can know what happened, sometimes you do that like sportsbet you did but sometimes we just happen to realize it and wouldn't notice otherwise.

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    February 11, 2019, 09:27:36 PM
    Last edit: February 11, 2019, 09:53:47 PM by Peeps Place
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    Quote from: raven7886 on February 11, 2019, 01:58:22 PM
    May I ask what made bitcoinrush to drop in the rating? Not to defend them or anything don't get me wrong, I have no relation, I just play there time to time and I want to know the reason so maybe I will withdraw from playing there as well. I am checking and last time I checked it was A- and now its B+ and even tough its not a big change it still shows here and dropping from the A team to B makes it more obvious so one obviously wonders why it happened since it can't be for nothing.

    When you are posting your new listings with new ratings, it would be suuuperb if you could also share why a place went up or why a place went down so we can know what happened, sometimes you do that like sportsbet you did but sometimes we just happen to realize it and wouldn't notice otherwise.
    Bitcoinrush is a very good book. The reason they were dropped is that their withdrawal times have been slower since when they were moved from B+ to A-. The withdrawals were from both personal withdrawals along with what's posted in their thread. They have made some changes and if their withdrawals speed up on a consistent bases, they will move up again. Nitrogen and Betcoin are running less than 15 minutes. If a book can consistently make payouts within 2 hours, that is sufficient.

    edit- Raven, you make a good point. In the future I will post reasons for an upgrade or downgrade.

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    February 11, 2019, 09:28:18 PM
    Last edit: February 11, 2019, 09:50:58 PM by Peeps Place
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    Quote from: Barnstorm on February 11, 2019, 12:59:20 PM
    BitcoinRush should be a level ahead of Nitrogen and Betcoin.ag.

    BitcoinRush has much better odds than Nitrogen or Betcoin.ag. BitcoinRush odds are identical to Pinnacle!

    BitcoinRush also has a much better website and interface than Nitrogen. I can't believe Nitrogen hasn't upgraded their website. Very clunky.

    I play at Fairlay because they have Pinnacle odds and a greater selection of matches and alternate odds than all of them.
    Thanks for the input. Nothing is wrong with Bitcoinrush. The biggest difference between Bitcoinrush and the top two are their withdrawal times and markets offered. All 3 books are recommended and all 3 are easy to work with as far as communication.

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    February 12, 2019, 01:10:49 AM
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    Quote from: Peeps Place on February 11, 2019, 10:35:03 AM
    That said, does anyone else have any problems or other experiences, good or bad to share from any book?

    Betcoin: No issues at all, support is responsive. Had multiple withdraws in the 0.3BTC to 0.6BTC range get processed without issue in under 20 minutes. Only minor annoyance were some low limits on certain bets (IIRC was only able to place < 100 mBTC on a Super Bowl 1st Quarter Under bet).

    BitcoinRush: Had a withdraw of ~0.5BTC, took about 12 hours. I get "Failed to submit bet" errors very rarely which last until they fix it, and it can be annoying at times.

    Quote from: Peeps Place on February 10, 2019, 04:48:11 AM
    If someone is playing at Betbit, post a review. A rating will go up soon. Thanks

    Made a 0.15BTC earlier today, will leave a review after I play a bit
    taking a break - expect delayed responses

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    February 12, 2019, 01:20:20 AM
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    Quote from: DarkStar_ on February 12, 2019, 01:10:49 AM
    Quote from: Peeps Place on February 11, 2019, 10:35:03 AM
    That said, does anyone else have any problems or other experiences, good or bad to share from any book?

    Betcoin: No issues at all, support is responsive. Had multiple withdraws in the 0.3BTC to 0.6BTC range get processed without issue in under 20 minutes. Only minor annoyance were some low limits on certain bets (IIRC was only able to place < 100 mBTC on a Super Bowl 1st Quarter Under bet).

    BitcoinRush: Had a withdraw of ~0.5BTC, took about 12 hours. I get "Failed to submit bet" errors very rarely which last until they fix it, and it can be annoying at times.

    Quote from: Peeps Place on February 10, 2019, 04:48:11 AM
    If someone is playing at Betbit, post a review. A rating will go up soon. Thanks

    Made a 0.15BTC earlier today, will leave a review after I play a bit

    Thanks Darkstar, this type of information is very valuable to all here.

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    February 12, 2019, 09:03:51 PM
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    Honestly, it is mostly something bad, it is not that common to talk about something good. If something bad happens on a sportsbook then you come here and talk about it, you open a topic, you complain and what not and do what everyone else does, then you will change their point and increase or decrease accordingly and do whatever. However when something good happens its usually just sportsbook doing everything they suppose to. That's it.

    If a sportsbook is not scamming people and giving good odds and help with deposit and withdraws, they are just going on their day like nothing happened and its hard to comment on that. What am I suppose to say, nitrogensport was great during superbowl and also helped people very quickly and we got our money hurray ? That is hard to do and not really common but its the truth. Like they are already a plus so it doesn't matter but they are really good.

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    February 12, 2019, 10:10:11 PM
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    Quote from: guoyu78 on February 12, 2019, 09:03:51 PM
    Honestly, it is mostly something bad, it is not that common to talk about something good. If something bad happens on a sportsbook then you come here and talk about it, you open a topic, you complain and what not and do what everyone else does, then you will change their point and increase or decrease accordingly and do whatever. However when something good happens its usually just sportsbook doing everything they suppose to. That's it.

    If a sportsbook is not scamming people and giving good odds and help with deposit and withdraws, they are just going on their day like nothing happened and its hard to comment on that. What am I suppose to say, nitrogensport was great during superbowl and also helped people very quickly and we got our money hurray ? That is hard to do and not really common but its the truth. Like they are already a plus so it doesn't matter but they are really good.
    I agree that people want to be heard when something is wrong or out of the ordinary. It seems unnecessary to post what is expected but he value of the thread increases when the norm is reinforced along with all problems.

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    February 12, 2019, 11:36:43 PM
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    Quote from: raven7886 on February 11, 2019, 01:58:22 PM
    May I ask what made bitcoinrush to drop in the rating? Not to defend them or anything don't get me wrong, I have no relation, I just play there time to time and I want to know the reason so maybe I will withdraw from playing there as well. I am checking and last time I checked it was A- and now its B+ and even tough its not a big change it still shows here and dropping from the A team to B makes it more obvious so one obviously wonders why it happened since it can't be for nothing.

    When you are posting your new listings with new ratings, it would be suuuperb if you could also share why a place went up or why a place went down so we can know what happened, sometimes you do that like sportsbet you did but sometimes we just happen to realize it and wouldn't notice otherwise.
    Maybe they have some problems or some errrors like what op said the withdrawal is slow. Op updated the ratings and for sure once the bitcoinrush once the withdrawal will fix like being fast it will increase the rank again. Depends on the performance of the gambling site and how the players giving the feedback we have different favorite gambling site and it is only ranking it's up to you what is yout no. 1

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    February 13, 2019, 09:30:40 AM
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    I played on a place and won a 0.073 bet and they sent it with such a low fee that I think they might even get the money back. I didn't know that was even possible but apparently that is something you should be careful about, I know this is not a rating (the website is not listed here thankfully) but I implore everyone to be careful about that.

    These new places send you your money with such a low fee that after couple of days of zero confirmation the money goes back to them (to the sender in any case) and they just respond with "we sent you the money here is the txid" and do nothing else, the shady sportsbooks of the world always find a way to scam their users and I don't know what could be done to prevent this issue but always take a look at the fee because if its too low then you are not playing on a good website.

    Thank god the top 3 never done anything like that because I played for so much bigger amounts in them.

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    February 13, 2019, 10:29:03 AM
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    Quote from: fasdorcas on February 13, 2019, 09:30:40 AM
    I played on a place and won a 0.073 bet and they sent it with such a low fee that I think they might even get the money back. I didn't know that was even possible but apparently that is something you should be careful about, I know this is not a rating (the website is not listed here thankfully) but I implore everyone to be careful about that.

    These new places send you your money with such a low fee that after couple of days of zero confirmation the money goes back to them (to the sender in any case) and they just respond with "we sent you the money here is the txid" and do nothing else, the shady sportsbooks of the world always find a way to scam their users and I don't know what could be done to prevent this issue but always take a look at the fee because if its too low then you are not playing on a good website.

    Thank god the top 3 never done anything like that because I played for so much bigger amounts in them.
    Thanks for the post and warning.

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    February 13, 2019, 10:30:11 AM
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    No changes in ratings. Just moved the email addresses.

    "A" and "B" books are recommended.

    "A" rated books
    nitrogensports.eu A+ (2013)  
    betcoin.ag A (2013)            

    "B"rated books
    bitcoinrush.io B+ (2013)        

    "C" rated books
    mBet.io C+ (2017)                
    anonibet.com  C- (2011)      
    jetwin.ps C- (2013)

    "D" rated books            
    coinbet24.com D+ (2015)        
    1xbit.com D (2016)              
    cloudbet.com D- (2013)        
    sportsbet.io D- (2016)          


    email: support@nitrogensports.eu and support ticket........Reduced juice: Yes
    email: contact@betcoin.ag and support ticket.................Reduced juice: Yes
    email: admin@bitcoinrush.io..........................................Reduced juice: Yes.
    email: customer_support@mbet.io................................. Reduced juice: No
    email: info@anonibet.com.............................................Reduced juice: No
    email: support@jetwin.ps Under maintenance....................Reduced juice: No
    email: support-en@1x-bit.com ......................................Two sets of lines.
    email: support@cloudbet.com .......................................Reduced juice:Yes
    email: cs@sportsbet.io................................................ Reduced juice: No

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    February 14, 2019, 05:41:01 PM
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    Another touch on sportsbet being fishy and a scam.

    I have contacted their licensed company in december, never got a response. I contacted askgamblers if I could submit a complaint about sportsbet.io on their website and they said that they do not have them listed this is back in december. Today I visited the sportsbet.io website and I noticed that they have the askgamblers logo on their website as to they being a part of it. I contacted askgamblers and see their response for your self. We all know sportsbet.io will not be here within a few years from now. Certain stuff will happen and they will shut down, you really think they are gonna be here for atleast a 20 years and stay ''legit'' and never got caught for taking matters in their own hands when breaching t&c? go figure.. d- is a compliment.

    https://imgur.com/a/Fmq2R19
    https://imgur.com/a/J8heR83

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    February 14, 2019, 06:14:11 PM
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    Cloudbet needs to drop off from the list. Even D- is not really that good for them right now, I think we all know why. Right now, they are keeping 330 bitcoins of a dude from him and not allow him to get his money back (not even his original deposit amount) and it has been going for about 8 weeks now and they are still denying him all his money and now made a new announcement that they will also not give the money back and sent the case to the curacao egaming to decide who will get the money.

    Even tough that is bad enough because its gamblers money and there is no way the money should stay at cloudbet NO MATTER WHAT, I mean how can a result come with "don't pay anyone and keep the money" I don't know but its still bad that they needed to go with a third party to get a result on their own issue.

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    February 14, 2019, 07:10:28 PM
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    Quote from: sana54210 on February 14, 2019, 06:14:11 PM
    Cloudbet needs to drop off from the list. Even D- is not really that good for them right now, I think we all know why. Right now, they are keeping 330 bitcoins of a dude from him and not allow him to get his money back (not even his original deposit amount) and it has been going for about 8 weeks now and they are still denying him all his money and now made a new announcement that they will also not give the money back and sent the case to the curacao egaming to decide who will get the money.

    Even tough that is bad enough because its gamblers money and there is no way the money should stay at cloudbet NO MATTER WHAT, I mean how can a result come with "don't pay anyone and keep the money" I don't know but its still bad that they needed to go with a third party to get a result on their own issue.
    You make valid points. Let's wait until Curacao egaming's decision before a change.

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    February 15, 2019, 03:25:47 AM
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    Quote from: areezy on February 14, 2019, 05:41:01 PM
    Another touch on sportsbet being fishy and a scam.

    I have contacted their licensed company in december, never got a response. I contacted askgamblers if I could submit a complaint about sportsbet.io on their website and they said that they do not have them listed this is back in december. Today I visited the sportsbet.io website and I noticed that they have the askgamblers logo on their website as to they being a part of it. I contacted askgamblers and see their response for your self. We all know sportsbet.io will not be here within a few years from now. Certain stuff will happen and they will shut down, you really think they are gonna be here for atleast a 20 years and stay ''legit'' and never got caught for taking matters in their own hands when breaching t&c? go figure.. d- is a compliment.

    https://imgur.com/a/Fmq2R19
    https://imgur.com/a/J8heR83
    Now that it's brought to their attention, they should at least take it down.

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    February 15, 2019, 04:14:36 AM
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    Good thread, very helpful.

    Out of curiosity, what do people think of buff.bet?
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