I was wondering when the meds would kick in.
Breath slowly Batty.

1+1=2.1 you moron.

Gaslight = The Sun? For real?


You are living proof that stupidity does indeed go beyond all boundaries.


You are found guilty on all counts. You are the weakest link.


Nobody wants to actually gang bang you Batty. A fantasy maybe?

Most of modern science is a disgrace to the scientific method. There's got to be a point in many scientific professions where the scientist realizes something is horrifically wrong (the nuclear scientists describing the barrels full of dead bodes at the DOE is a personal favourite) but he needs his career and goes along to get along.

Take for example the guy who demolishes buildings for a living, image his reaction to watching building 7, a steel and concrete structure reinforced to withstand natural disasters implode in on itself at free fall speeds due to what the TV claims is fire. He can't understand how he watched the building implode live after the BBC reporter had already stated it had fallen.

1+1=3.

I'm not twisting anything, the horizon is actually flat.

A globe earth dictates that the horizon is the physical edge of a ball. However it can be shown via practical experiment that's well documented, beyond any doubt, that the horizon is an optical phenomenon caused by the angular resolution limit and perspective of the eye/camera.

The result is that, what is observed from a fixed perspective (a flat horizon with a dynamic range) is not consistent with a globe earth.

The horizon is a line in the vision. Flat refers to a plane. When you do a panoramic view of the horizon line, yet you are facing one position without turning, the horizon becomes a curved thing in view. However, nobody can see this, because the eye is not made to view this way. The understanding of this kind of a view comes from an extrapolation of the knowledge that the earth is a near-globe.

A GE doesn't dictate an edge. Only a simple understanding of the observation dictates an edge. Understanding of what the critical observation really is, shows that the horizon is the limit of sight on a globe, when the eye is above the globe at any specific height. The greater the height, the less the change in the angle of view, until the angle is essentially unchanged at millions or billions of miles of height.

As you say, the horizon is optical phenomenon. This means that it can't be relied upon to determine what is really being seen. This, also, means that all your talk about viewing the horizon and determining that the earth is flat from the viewing, has nothing to do with the shape or size of the earth. It's optical phenomenon, not what is actually there.

The result is that simply viewing the horizon is something that has nothing to do with determining whether the earth is flat, globular, or something else. The things that help to determine what the shape of the earth really is, are precise measurements that the eye is not capable of... measurements made by telescopes, transits, satellites, etc. In addition, these measurements are not only horizon measurements, but are also measurements of objects that sail over the horizon, and other objects as well.

You are going the wrong way with your talk. People have known for thousands of years that the simple eye-view is not precise enough to determining the size and shape of the earth. So, they invented many different instruments, and the math that goes along with it, to help determine the size and shape. Now, you want to go back to simple eye measurements that everybody knows are unable to make precise observations. You were born too late. You should have been born in the Dark Ages.

There you go again, proving yourself right out of business by what you say.

Everything you say is what people have been saying for as many as thousands of years. Why don't we listen to what they say? Because we found that they hadn't examined things with precision, and put them together with exactness. It's the entire reason why the Middle Ages or the Dark Ages thought that the world was flat.

Now that we have accurate measurements made by telescopes, transits, satellites, etc., we have found that the earth is nearly a globe.

One simple proof that your idea of FE is way off can be found above, at https://bt.irlbtc.com/view/1009045.msg52735246#msg52735246. Use the principle involved for any size that you claim the sun is. It proves that the earth is not flat in any way that you are talking about. And if your ways are wrong, your whole point is wrong.

But it's fun playing with you like this. Boring, but fun anyway.

The best experiment you can do is to be an astronaut and watch the earth scheme with your own eyes. That's the best way to realize if it is flat or a sphere.

Universities and collages offer courses for every profession under the sun except one, you can't become an astronaut. Space is fake.

^^^ The chosen ones.

I agree with Badecker for once.    Yes, NASA chooses you.  If you are an elite scientist, engineer, or military personnel, you may get called.