Thank you @Amph for the reply.

I have no problem running mining on Linux, just interested in the Windows development status, and i would really love to be able to stay off Win10 if possible, but i'm also a gamer and thus Windows is a necessity for the time being.
Dual-boot is a real thing

I think now Pascal have more algo than AMD good for mining

The new driver fix win 10 insider preview by itself and needs work on win7/8 (its os specific - devs need work on win7/8 kernel)

uh i remember i said the same about win 7, i don't care if it work there or not, i don't like linux because of gaming, and i'm also mining with a gaming rig(why i should leave 1 card there doing nothing when i'm not doing gaming?)

if there were no other option, then i would end up using linux for the mining rig, but since on win 10 it work fine i'll use that when ready

i'm just waiting for someone to fix neos at least on win 10, which is the most profitable for me now(dunno but i'm getting more than what whattomine display...), before buying 1070...

41 on what as opposed to ether?  Do we need to install cuda?

Based on what I've read about WDDM, I am pretty certain that is what drivers use to deal with the OS virtual memory.

The supposed 'fix' for W10 was the WDDM update, which wont be back ported to W7/8. I don't really get what you're saying though as your posts are really fragmented. I already understand the miners are broken and need to be fixed. Not exactly certain as to why they're broken though, which is what I was looking for here.

So we're back to square one two weeks ago, when people were bringing this up, which is Dagger and NeoS are still broken on W7/8 and NeoS is broken on W10, so switching to W10 wont fix these issues (switching OS's isn't a 'fix' to buggy software anyway).

Ask a administrator to switch OS's because a piece of his software is broken and he'll laugh you out of his tiny little office. This really just looks like people are trying to shift responsibility around here so things don't get fixed though... As to why? I'm not exactly certain.

Hopefully Genoil will be able to start tidying this up once he gets his 1070 as will the other developers.

Thanks @Wolf0
I am now using DwarfPool and their Stratum Proxy (found nothing else useable?) and it's working.

You can connect directly to dwarf using stratum support of genoil miner, I personally don't recommend it due to issue with connection and rejected shares as discussed previously in this thread. But if u want to try it;

ethminer -U -S exp-us.dwarfpool.com:8018 -SP 1 -O 0x1497684e0740d41cd05f5a0d2f2f51953b940510.gtx970

thats my command line for expanse u just need to sub in the info for eth.