Also, from the experience with BFL the bitcointalk community has seen what happens when a company with little experience in the ASIC field jumps in blindly. Any other who are to follow without having a long history of successful projects in the field will have a much harder time than BFL did to earn the trust of the community. BFL got a freebie just cause they were the first, that's usually how it is.

I'm going to save you the trouble, because I know you will challenge me on it anyway.

Look at the first post (I even highlighted it for you):

I support BFL for the simple reason that they stepped in and started a ASICs project that they went ahead with before anyone else. Then a lot can be said about how they have dealt with this whole thing but a 6 month delay in the chip business isn't exactly something that has never happened before.

The Avalon guys also has my respect for starting their own project even tho it at the time seemed like it would be non competitive with BFL simply to have at least one other vendor in the market.

But the KNC guys? jumping on the bandwagon at this point? never heard of them and they have no past products to show for. I wish them the best of luck and I hope their project is real but it's up to them to prove it. The only thing that will convince the community at this point of another viable ASICs vendor is that they show working hardware and have it verified in person by several forum members.  

One reason, delivery time. If you order today and BFL starts shipping in a week I wouldn't expect you to get your miner until September/October at the earliest. Josh is an optimist with a bad track record for estimates, whatever he tells you simply double/halve it and add/subtract 25% for good measure

Why are peoples expectations and verification of BFL different from other companies. I'm not defending KNC here, but you want hardware to be shown and have it verified in person by several forum members. How many forum members have verified BFL's hardware? Besides Lukes mythical machine that is in their office. Plenty of people have gone down there and seen nothing at their office, no security you can just walk on in and take all of their "miners" that they have produced.

Meanwhile this company actually has a partnership with a reputable company that does $1.5M in sales annually and it gets bashed and held to higher standards than BFL who has done nothing but lie, and treat their customers like shit lol. Reading the posts nothing has been found wrong against this company as a matter of fact a lot of positives have been found which makes it 100% more legit than BFL, yet people put these crazy standards like field trips to their office to verify their product.

I'm not saying that this shouldn't be done, it should absolutely be done!, but why aren't you guys screaming and doing the same thing to BFL, BFL is even easier to visit, yet people just let them slide. Ohh people visited you last month and said pretty much you were all having circle jerks, and it looked like absolutely nothing was being done, great! it just seems very mind boggling retarded to trust one company but not another even though the other seems more legit than the prior for no logical reason at all.

/End Rant

The Majority of people don't want to buy chips, have them shipped, have somebody else put together different sizes of 10 chips each or several hundred at an extremely overpriced cost, with July, August 2013 deliveries. People would rather have one company where they purchase a product for a reasonable price and it gets delivered. If these guys can actually deliver on their Summer/Early Fall Timeline they will probably dominate the ASIC market, even if BFL is actually delivering, which probably won't be the case, with their waiting for revised chips, plastics, PCB's, new office, power cords, porno movies, 60+ year old assembly workers, Josh's new transsexual hooker.

Final stage of development End of April 2013 delivery, ALL SALES FINAL NOT A SCAM WE SWEAR

UPDATE: We're waiting for revised beaks. We are in the final stage of production, end of MAY 2013 Delivery.

but I love to spam just like KNC will do with all of our email addresses!!! YEssss....Yessss says KNC CEO playing with his fingers near his face while saying such things.