Depends what version of the (same) chip you buy and whether you buy it directly from the manufacturer or not. Some versions of the chip can be discounted up to 70-80%. (315 USD seems a bit high, I thought I had seen them at around 100 at digikey/mouser)

I don't know which exact version of the Cyclone IV E (115K) they are using, but if they are using a "less programmable" one, they might very well buy it for "peanuts". I expect the BOM cum manufacturing would be around 1800 USD.

Don't forget that ORSoC already has partnerships with IC houses.

They have two links to the exact chip they're using (IC CYCLONE IV FPGA 115K 484FBGA).  Both links have it listed as $315.

http://www.buyaltera.com/scripts/partsearch.dll?Detail&name=544-1468-ND

http://www.digikey.com/product-search/en?x=18&y=12&lang=en&site=us&KeyWords=EP4CE115F23C8N

Not to be rude, but I'm not looking for speculation here.  It should be pretty easy for someone from kncminer to provide a definitive answer to such a basic question.

Nah, I'll wait for them to answer in this thread.

I can't be the only person wondering about this.

Then don't be disappointed if you don't get a response. To my knowledge, you're the first to bring this up in this thread. However, while they seem to drop in time to time, it would be foolish to expect them to scour every post on every page to see if anyone has a lingering question that needs answering.



Here is a quick list of requests I'd be grateful to you, daggeteo, or anyone else that will be in attendance, to provide feedback on. Or, if anyone in the community has seen information pertaining to the following, that would be helpful just as well.

Videos, at least photos of:
1) Mars unit hashing
2) Mars without a cover/case …shots of the internals if possible
2) Hashing results in the software client
3) The power supply attached
4) A meter read of the power draw at the outlet – hopefully they’ll provide a monitor, or do you have one you could bring?

Include a common object for size reference, or a ruler for measurement in the photos/videos.


Questions:
1) Is this demo unit built on the final design revision that we’ll see used at the time of full-scale production?
2) When will Mars begin production, if it hasn’t already?
3) Has any development work yet begun on the ASIC modules?
4) (If you’re not able to get a wattage reading from a meter)What is the power consumption on the Mars device?
5) What is the projected power consumption of the Saturn/Jupiter?
6) Do you plan on discontinuing the Mars BTC miners by a certain date or a quantity sold?
7) With this modular design, how will the ASIC units be interfaced with each other, considering that additional devices may be added at a later time?
8 ) Will these connected ASIC devices use a single shared network connection? What about the power?


Your Observations:
1) Where are you? Office Workroom Lab …?
2) What else is around? Desks (with phones? ..how many?) Workstations Machinery …?
3) Who, specifically, is in attendance at this meeting? Do you see other people around as well?
4) How much noise does the Mars device produce? ..perhaps think of something comparative
5) Do you feel much heat radiation from the Mars unit?


Lastly, notes, Notes, NOTES! Leave no detail to the fallibility of memory. Better yet, use a voice recorder if you have one or are willing to install one on your phone. Ask before recording, of course.

Much appreciated!

Great questions. Really.

I can answer Q6. Mars will have further renditions, they tentively mentioned it as Mars v.2 that will mine Litecoins.

Assuming Johan, Marcus and Michael will be in attendance (other three directors aside Andreas and Sam who run ORSoC) I think there should be separate questions for them relating to the KNC & ORSoC partnership. I know 'KS' has been vocal on this, especially pertaining liability, etc. Now is his chance.

So let's also have some ORSoC focused questions to be asked aside the KNC focused ones. This is a partnership between the two companies even though directors have dual interests.

The founders of KnCMiner:
Andreas Kennemar
http://se.linkedin.com/pub/andreas-kennemar/7/a72/381
Johan Rilegård
http://se.linkedin.com/in/johanrilegard/                          
Marcus Erlandsson
http://se.linkedin.com/pub/marcus-erlandsson/1/20a/680/            
Michael Unnebäck
http://se.linkedin.com/pub/michael-unnebäck/5/725/20/
Sam Cole
http://se.linkedin.com/pub/sam-cole/1/1a8/22/          
                                          

You know, I honestly don't give a shit either way.

I was just pointing out what seemed to be a pretty big pricing inconsistency.

However, a lot of people here seem to prefer making investment decisions without all of the facts.  I'll leave you guys to it.

So instead of trolling, you've been given a couple of opportunities to provide some worthwhile questions in the past 24 hours and possible justify holding onto your queue placement, but instead your focus is trolling. At least we know your intentions.

Mine is to get as many questions answered before being asked to reach in my wallet and pay for something, and that's not happening unless i'm convinced these guys are making ASIC miners and delivering on time. I don't have an axe to grind with KNC, as they have yet to give me reason.

I'm also sharing what I find with everyone, so if there are any further questions that need more refined answers, they can also be asked by people attending in person. In case it's slipped you attention, that's likely to be next week.

But you keep trolling, it really helps...

instead of trolling yourself, walk a mile in my shoes.

I had to retype + repost the bloody thing 5 times, I'm loosing my connection here! For GOD's SAKE!



PS: don't think you can just paint walls of letters and nobody will do anything about it!

edit: retyping the post before this one, of course, not the one quoted. and, that might come as a shocker for someone as prolific as yourself, but trolling, while it can be fun, doesn't actually pay the rent, so, sorry if I don't reply to your posts immediately...
edit2: and by that I mean post a list of relevant questions pertaining to the KnC operation, of course!

^^FTFY

& thank god for smileys!

Hey, I'll sell mine.



When I log into my account on the KNCminer website I don't see any order history or anything. Does everyone see that same thing? I thought I use to see my place# in the queue. I do still have my original email that was sent to me. My place in the queue is at the end. It is #341. So this will give me the opportunity when the time comes to be able to buy one of their miners up to 500 units sold. I hope so.