Thanks to this now locked thread...


Follow the provided link above to read more of which I included the first three paragraphs to whet your whistle.

Well, I hope he really listen and make changes ... but time is catching up and time don't wait.. or can be reverse back

Which is what I hope these guys understand. It's a tough one; they have to produce a product multiple times more powerful than the current offering for a better price and make it more efficient to run(be it clocked or less power hungry or both) to offer any longevity and ROI as well as potential profit.

BFL's downfall has been the absolutely bizarre intention to put aesthetic design before function. They are now left with a huge amount of redundant cases they paid for with investor money and now at last minute have had to perform a complete design overhaul at further expense and time. Irrespective of whether they return any profit to their customers BFL and those involved with the project have banked and have created a 'successful product and company' in terms of their careers, although investors may not share the same sentiment. Thanks to their aggressive marketing campaign coupled with mainstream media exposure they will be receiving customer orders for the foreseeable future even with their now inflated prices. Those new customers are unlikely to see a return if they order now and BFL deliver the new orders in their current expected timeframe. It's just beyond me why they thought aesthetics even remotely come into what is potentially a product with such a finite timeframe of purposeful use. It's not as if it does anything so worthy of putting on display and staring at it, but people actually chose to preorder it based on looks, so essentially there's my answer.

Avalon's entire purpose has been to disrupt any centralisation without the desire to profit. That latter part is BS; they are, and have been profiting comfortably from this venture, but their intention to ensure decentralisation is valid.

KNCMiner carry people with industry experience, but will also have investors knowledgeable of the BFL customer experience, savvy enough to create their own DIY products in due course unless KNCminer can create a compelling reason otherwise, cautious and unkeen to share the same BFL/bASIC experience which is why working prototypes mean everything. The fact that ORSoC are involved means a prototype should be justifiably feasible to produce prior to requesting funds. They have the kit, the set-up and the people in house. Whatever they do they have to be realistic with respect to expectations of what can be achieved and definitely by what timeframe they can be in the hands of their customers. Furthermore, they must acknowledge the number of DIY chips Avalon is flooding the market with in that timeframe and the subsequent effect they may have on difficulty. There is no excuse for this. KNCMiner raised their intentions to produce at the exact same time as Avalon's notice to sell bulk chips so this cannot be being ignored. Bottom line, people want to support Bitcoin and all it stands for, but they also want to profit from their time and expense.

European customers desperately need a solid offering though. Paying import fees from outside the EU (approx 30% for orders above $135 to the UK - 20% VAT and a bizarre new levy of 9% on top of the full VAT included value for orders over $135 dollars plus shipping) is not fun!

These days with electronics the purpose of engineering design is to design products with the intention to reuse, recondition, or recycle. I would like to assume the current producers of ASIC miners have designed products with the intention to harvest parts once they reach their end of functional life cycle, or at least point customers in the right direction as to where their redundant tech may be beneficial; i.e. assisting research into curing disease etc. There are certainly uses beyond Bitcoin that need to be considered for social entrepreneurs.  

Wrong email addy? I used one someone posted here as opposed to the site contact form. That's probably swamped with all manner or BS questions. Also keep your Q's on point, constructive and brief, that's just common sense.

Best, A.

 

Maybe I sent my email to the wrong adress or something then. I used the adress found on their website.

He does answer but won't listen to your suggestions and comments that is kind of sad ya...

Wowzers.  Trying to catch up and my brain hurts.  So is there no advantage to being one of the first 500 to sign up for this?  50+ GH/s sounded great... but this sure leaves a lot of questions.  After reading all the posts I guess the 60 GH/s device isn't happening? Bitcoin price is still way unstable and who knows where it will end up.  I managed to land #355 of the 1-500 which I guess is moot?  Probably need to stick with trading.  Damn coins.

That can't be correct. $3000 for 6GH? And it's not even an ASIC? I don't get it.