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No argument from me on that one. Moose meat is perhaps my favorite beef. It's not gamy like deer meat as long as it's from good young animals properly harvested and it has a rich beefy taste, especially if barded with beef fat..

For years my main supplier was an Anishinaabe who was a sniper. He set up his equipment in a blind on a cliff overlooking where the moose would come to drink just before dusk. He even rappeled down the cliff with a small limbing chainsaw to remove a small tree that was obstructing his view. He shot the moose through the head, preserving as much meat as possible with a single shot for a quick kill. After bleeding, gutting, skinning and quartering the carcass he hauled the quarters in his quad runner to his pickup truck on the highway. From there it went straight to the butchery on his reserve more than 100 miles away and into the refrigerated meat locker. After a week of hanging it was butchered into the traditional beef cuts, wrapped, carefully labeled and deep frozen. My only complaint was that it was wrapped in standard butcher's paper instead of cryovac. It was always tender, flavorful and juicy.

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JJG - You just keep lying - don't you? You fucking asshole. I cannot imagine having to work with you, being a relative or neighbor, or dealing with you in any way, shape or form. You are a worthless piece of shit in my view. Hoping karma knocks your teeth out and shits down your throat. Fuck you asshole!  

To be clear, when/if I do post anything about spot Bitcoin ETFs it is purely for the positive information pertaining to Bitcoin, not for ETFs or 'as a savior to bitcoin' as you so stupidly claim... You truly are a complete asshole and scumbag jerk.

JJG - I don't know why the nice and considerate good people here put up with your shit...  

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Well, the time to get gloomy is when we're at the top.  Lots of people here will be gloomy around $60K, but at that point it will be too late to actually do anything about it.  If you aren't planning to sell for years it doesn't really matter what the price is.  However, for those who have been waiting years to take some profits, don't end up bagholding for another 4 years.  Everybody needs their own vacation homes.

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The last I checked, it takes more than one peep to "dogpile," and it is likely problematic if you are proclaiming that some members (whether me or any other member) who deserve to be physically attacked..  


I am largely quoting you since you have already shown a propensity to delete your earlier posts.  In other words, I am not citing you for any arguable value that could possibly be attributed to your largely non-substantive and emotive contents.

I imagine that there could be some way that you could actually imagine some way of actually producing value through your contents, since sure it could be possible that you are not here to distract and/or convolute in regards to Bitcoin spot ETFs, and maybe you want to learn about bitcoin and/or share information about bitcoin, even though surely there have been quite a few occasions that you seem to want to lecture us about bitcoin rather than engage in some back and forth process, since even many of us long time bitcoiners (who have likely been dabbling in the bitcoin topic way longer than you, inspite of your various claims to the contrary) we might not always be correct and sometimes there can be ways to learn from new perspectives to the extent that we might feel that we are not being badgered into having to worship what is an inferior product by definition.

A derivative product cannot be superior to the underlying because it is dependent on the underlying, even though there surely can be advantages in owning, trading and/or speculating on derivative products, such as Spot BTC ETFs.. yet by definition such derivative product would not exist if the underlying does not exist and there surely can be ways that the derivative product can be used to attack and undermine the underlying product - which some folks consider to have had been how gold had lost a lot of its monetization properties... .

And, no I am not claiming to be any kind of expert on any of these matters, including that some of them I am just learning about and/or thinking about them in a different way than I had previously thought about them. I suppose that many of us come to forums like this and threads like this with an attempt to crowd source some of our knowledge, and sure some guys have more knowledge than others, yet also there can be quite a few distractions in the process and even some folks who might be engaged in tactics to purposefully derail important topics that might come up in the thread from time to time and topics that might be difficult to discuss in other circles.. including some times difficulties that we might have to find bitcoiners in the real world with knowledge levels similar to ours or even similar to the knowledge levels of some guys on the thread - even though even on the thread, sometimes guys say some pretty stupid shit that is caught up in various aspects of mainstream dogma rather than really grappling with some of the more intricate aspects of bitcoin - and yeah money go up is good and empowering to bitcoin holders, but it is not the ONLY thing going on in connection with bitcoin and/or the powers of bitcoin.

 So surely, in regards to bitcoin, there are a lot of status quo rich folks, governments and/or institutions (financial and otherwise) that would like to either see bitcoin fail or at least to bring it to a place in which it can be harnessed and controlled in various ways that the status quo elite find to be acceptable, including that surely there are quite a few status quo rich (individuals, governments and/or institutions) that feel greatly threatened by tool such as bitcoin that they feel may well overly empower "non-deserving" individuals and surely an aspect of a transfer of wealth that is not really appreciated by various members/institutions of the status quo rich, and yeah some of the status quo rich have figured out ways to attempt to profit from bitcoin - whether or not they are also part of an attack vector or not might still be up for debate.. since sometimes individuals might depart from their earlier roles and/or change their values and/or alliances.. sure it is possible.  

I am not going to proclaim that even my own ways of thinking about the world had not been changed by my so far learning about and participation in aspects of bitcoin.  There truly can be levels of appreciation, so for example take some of your earlier comments in which you were denigrating the burdens of self-custody.  You are not completely wrong about the existence of some self-custody burdens, costs and/or risks that come from various aspects of self-custody and even how aspects of the best (or better) practices of self-custody might be a bit of a moving target too.  Yet at the same time, so much of the power of bitcoin comes from abilities of individuals, institutions and/or governments to bypass third-parties (and even to bypass governments in various respects), so then bitcoin would surely lose a lot of its value if self-custody were overly undermined (even though arguably self-custody is already being undermined in a variety of ways).  So then if we have optionality of self-custody, and surely certain segments of the population (individuals, institutions and governments) appreciate that their side is able to have the option of self-custody, yet they might at the same time prefer that some others do not have such option (or to undermine them (ie deceive them) out of their awareness of having such self-custody options).  There are likely questions in regards to some forum members, especially the newbies trying to act like they know everything, and questions about whether they are contributing to our abilities to discuss and share information or might there be some underlying agenda in their pushing of certain agendas or even their devolution into baloney discussion points - such as attacking and trying to get other guys worked up about mostly made-up nonsense.


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I have my moments.. and surely we likely realize that sometimes manners might be better served by throwing them out the door.. since sometimes we have to be careful in regards if we are too nice (or we give benefits of the doubt) to some of the folks who come to these here parts and they are likely either being disingenuine.. or maybe they are a paid shill troll, since even the paid shills/trolls might bring up some good arguments from time to time. Perhaps?

Surely some of the paid trolls/shills are purposeful in their attempts to derail the thread, and this thread tends to be fairly tolerant of a variety of opinions even open somewhat to a trolling/shilling kind of an approach to bitcoin or even non-bitcoin topics.. . .yet sometimes the troll/shills do end up going overboard to such a degree that they are removed for their own actions/posts end up providing evidence of their ONLY having intents to derail and/or deceive in regards to the sharing of meaningful contents.