So many hodlers in the forum. I dont understand a one thing. Can someone explain me one thing? Why holders are so active at the speculation part of the forum? If I would be a hodler, a hardcore holder I would not watch the price. Why would I? That makes no sense to me. Just forget about the price that would be easier to hodl. Wouldnt it?

It's fun. Hodling in itself is fairly mundane otherwise.

That is a third way (or perhaps just part of the 1st way described below?)^** that newbies and/or low coiners and/or no coiners get discouraged (and take actions) in their failure/refusal to adequately prepare themselves financially for UP.

1) sell too many BTC too early... so the sub-category of this would be that if guys had bought bitcoin then they sold too many coins too early on the way up, then the BTC price corrects and they feel like geniuses because they had sold, but still fail/refuse to buy back on the dip since waiting for further dip.. and perhaps the market recovers and they fail to buy or alternatively if they had bought, then they sell on the second round of the BTC price going up.. but then the BTC price keeps going up after that second sell (profit taking), even by then they sold most if not all of their coins, so even if they might have had started out as a low coiner, then may end up as even a lower coiner or even ending up as a no coiner because they end up psychologically blocking themselves from getting back into bitcoin, since who wants to buy back into bitcoin at prices that are higher than the prices of their earlier sales?  There are quite a few variations of these selling too many coins too early scenarios, and maybe they don't screw up their portfolio in one round, yet their ongoing insistence on selling ends up putting them into a wrong state of mind and never really having enough coins because they are always selling at some point soon after they buy, even some of them might end up making 50%, 70% or maybe even 2x profits.. but then they do not even fare as close to the guy who had largely held onto his coins and went through multiple doublings of the BTC prices, and so compounding upon compounding upon compounding of the BTC value that he had been ongoingly holding through the ups and downs in the BTC prices.

and

2) fail/refuse to sufficiently buy. Anything else need to be said about this guy?  Perhaps he continues to wait for a dip?  A dip that never comes sufficiently enough to his liking, and he would have had been way better off to just ongoingly buy, but instead he is worried about dips and that he might have had been able to buy at cheaper prices.  Counseling such a guy to just get started and to buy at any price does not seem to work, since the guy remains scared to pull the trigger and press the buy button.  These guys tend to be ongoingly scared of buying the top, and they don't want to look foolish for buying the top, yet they ongoingly look foolish for failing/refusing to get started and establishing a system of ongoing, persistent, consistent, regular and perhaps even aggressive buying.

**Edited my above two examples.


Welcome back.

Do what you can in terms of buys, and try to buy weekly for at least 4 years without even thinking about the price, and then reassess where you are at after 4 years to figure out if you might need to make any significant tweaks to what you are doing or just that you continue to stay with weekly buys.

it can take a couple of cycles or more to really build up a reasonably-sized bitcoin stack and also to be able to hang onto such stack by making sure that we are otherwise not going to have to sell any of our coins at a time that is not of our own choosing, which means we need to build and practice strong cashflow management systems/practices that include back up funds.


There is another popular (rock pop) "wake up" song from the 80s.. by Wham.  "Wake me up before you go go."


Your basic numbers are wrong, and yeah I get your point about the lack of severity in the crash.. but you are likely reading too much into a supposed crash and comparing it to prior crashes, since we might not know the crash for the cycle, yet.  Right now we merely have a correction that might end up extending itself into crash status.. yet we are not at a point of "crash" yet.  We should not let others create our framework or fail to recognize/appreciate the numbers and/or timelines in order to make a factually accurate framework to support the point that we might be trying to make in a hopefully convincing (and hopefully? factually accurate) way.


You wanna bet?

Oh wait?

Aren't you that one guy?

 


 


hahahahahaha

You are correct.

The level of whine coming from LFC is becoming so great, and even getting up to "irritation" levels.

I would suppose that since he (LFC) sold some decent chunk around $120, he does likely have a bit of a dilemma regarding when (or if?) to buy back in... so now he seems to be rooting for down in order to hit some kind of a target buy back in price.. Ie talking his book to some extent.. .. so it seems, even though, yeah, he likely has some belief in what he is saying, too.  Go figure?


Yeah but so what?  Are the sales from weak-handed and overextended treasury companies going to be enough to change the direction of the bitcoin market or just cause them to end up being the same or similar to mindrust in March 2020 and/or Germany in September-ish 2024 (or similar OgNasty's sub $60k selling of BTC in late 2024 to buy a Cybertruck)?

Sure, in the aggregate a lot of small players can add up to a lot, yet I doubt that we are (yet) at that point in the cycle of the market.

But hey whatever, your milage may vary.

This is the first step to 80X leverage trading by accident.

Although psylocibin is way safer and more enjoyable (I assume), I heard the trip from Muscarina is like being drunk and dizzy. Is that true?

Have a good trip! Tell us when you peak so we can start posting trippy gifs.

Not in this life  


It's microdosed (roughly 80mg on my 1/10 gram scale). 1000mg or more would be needed for a trip.
EDIT: I never felt clearer, but sharper, mindwise. It's also a bit slowing (slightly meditative). Seems like i used to think at full throttle ever before. Game changing.

It feels like the peak for 4 hours straight already, pretty much like LSD (but not as intense in any way).
It's medication, though, but i always like trippy gif's  

I am dipping just about 100k

do we go lower.

I am ready thank god for orange man tariffs.

copper and silver went way up letting me be ready for dip dip dip

Bull run? What bull run? I didn't notice there was one. 

Anyway, it seems I missed the third cycle top in a row (2017, 2021, 2025). I hold my bags and will keep holding for at least 4 more years. I still have some hope that we are wrong and the top is still ahead of us (November? December?) there's still a chance...

Yup.

Either that... or maybe just a shake-out!

Your pick.

Okay, what is the reason for the fire sale?

Bought more, because why not.