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    May 06, 2018, 02:45:01 AM
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    May 06, 2018, 03:21:21 AM
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    Quote from: Bitbobb on May 06, 2018, 02:27:17 AM
    Quote from: whatsit on May 06, 2018, 02:10:52 AM
    Quote from: Mrpumperitis on May 06, 2018, 01:58:56 AM
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    It is interesting to observe quite recently the big growth and big activity in this coin. Can anyone tell what exactly is growth?  And generally interested in approximate target price for 1 coin for the next month?

    I'm a dunce so anyone listening to me is taking advice from a self proclaimed noob.

    On May 15th, BCH will once again increase the size of a block from the current 8MB to 32 MB. The current Bitcoin core team has limited the blocksize and overall functionality of the original BTC model and therefore is less efficient than the August 1 2017 hard fork that BCH represents.

    The Crypto community sees the inefficiencies in the code that has been co-opted by a team of open sourced marauders, who claim Bitcoin as their own and have dubbed it Bitcoin Core.

    BCH is as close to the original idea of Bitcoin as was originally intended and BTC has become something different entirely.

    Nakamoto Satoshi (if that was ever his real name, he's probably some white guy from Germany) should step into the light and endorse all crypto as viable, but he remains in the shadows in his ivory tower laughing at us all, since he has long since cashed out all of his pre-mine into the fiat currency that his coin was about challenging in the 1st place.

    Anyway you slice it, BCH has altruistic intentions. BTC is also a viable currency, since it was the 1st and branded the best, but I believe that if they don't change, they will be surpassed by other so called "altcoins"

    My 1st sentence in this post is well served and the following is what I have gleaned from my time in crypto.
    When i began reading this post, i thought, smart guy, he is not a dunce.....
    then i got to this bit near the end...Anyway you slice it, BCH has altruistic intentions. BTC is also a viable currency, since it was the 1st and branded the best, but I believe that if they don't change, they will be surpassed by other so called "altcoins"
    lol
    then changed my mind and i agreed with your opening sentence  Cheesy
    Welcome m8  Smiley
    I told you twice I'm a noob Smiley Whether you call BCH an altcoin or not is irrelevant as we see what it's doing on the exchanges presently. There are twice  as many hashes going to BCH at present as there are to Bitcoin core and that's all I need to know.

    white guy from Gernamy in ivory tower omg lol wth thanks for the lol!

    The greatest innovation in peer to peer technology and anonymity and we can't even guess who the proprietor of said technology is? Sounds perfect. You have created 1/2 trillion dollars in imaginary money. You're rivaling the US government. For that you should be applauded.

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    May 06, 2018, 03:29:24 AM
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    Quote from: bones261 on May 06, 2018, 01:38:02 AM
    Quote from: Virtuoso on May 05, 2018, 07:49:45 PM
    is a roger ver a scammer? I heard of a lawsuit against him but I trust him and his team. what do you think?

    I honestly feel Roger Ver feels Bitcoin Cash is the legitimate fork and more closely follows the original white paper. I don't think someone can be considered a scammer if they honestly believe what they are touting. After all, I do not think most Jehovah witnesses are "scammers.' They truly believe they are the legitimate Christian church and that the rest of the church went apostate when they declared that the Arian view was wrong.

    Furthermore, I think the lawsuit is bullshit. I think people honestly feel "noobs" are dumber than they think. And who cares if they bought BCH thinking it was BTC. If they discover their error in time, they can convert their BCH to BTC on a multitude of exchanges and any losses that they incur would be minimal. Shoot, in the past couple of days, the "error" would have actually made them come out ahead. Only snag would be if they ended up sending BCH to a BTC address in error.

    I personally don't trust any "Father/God/Head" of XXX coin. They are all selfish and they invest for their own profit. I don't think they will be so generous to consider our profit.
    Sometimes, it is hard to call them "scammers" if they hurt our profit. They just select the way to save their own interests.

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    May 06, 2018, 04:42:37 AM
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    Quote from: xlcus on May 06, 2018, 03:29:24 AM
    Quote from: bones261 on May 06, 2018, 01:38:02 AM
    Quote from: Virtuoso on May 05, 2018, 07:49:45 PM
    is a roger ver a scammer? I heard of a lawsuit against him but I trust him and his team. what do you think?

    I honestly feel Roger Ver feels Bitcoin Cash is the legitimate fork and more closely follows the original white paper. I don't think someone can be considered a scammer if they honestly believe what they are touting. After all, I do not think most Jehovah witnesses are "scammers.' They truly believe they are the legitimate Christian church and that the rest of the church went apostate when they declared that the Arian view was wrong.

    Furthermore, I think the lawsuit is bullshit. I think people honestly feel "noobs" are dumber than they think. And who cares if they bought BCH thinking it was BTC. If they discover their error in time, they can convert their BCH to BTC on a multitude of exchanges and any losses that they incur would be minimal. Shoot, in the past couple of days, the "error" would have actually made them come out ahead. Only snag would be if they ended up sending BCH to a BTC address in error.
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    I personally don't trust any "Father/God/Head" of XXX coin. They are all selfish and they invest for their own profit. I don't think they will be so generous to consider our profit.
    Sometimes, it is hard to call them "scammers" if they hurt our profit. They just select the way to save their own interests.

    Crypto has always been about taking profits. It's almost exclusively run by bots on the exchanges. The long term vision of crypto currencies is for the investor to take what they can, but know when to get in and when it's time to sell for a profit. 1/2 a trillion dollars marketcap isn't going anywhere. At this point it's where to jump in and where to get out. There's so much cash available that you almost can't lose with crypto.

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    May 06, 2018, 04:45:13 AM
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    Quote from: whatsit on May 06, 2018, 04:42:37 AM
    Quote from: xlcus on May 06, 2018, 03:29:24 AM
    Quote from: bones261 on May 06, 2018, 01:38:02 AM
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    is a roger ver a scammer? I heard of a lawsuit against him but I trust him and his team. what do you think?

    I honestly feel Roger Ver feels Bitcoin Cash is the legitimate fork and more closely follows the original white paper. I don't think someone can be considered a scammer if they honestly believe what they are touting. After all, I do not think most Jehovah witnesses are "scammers.' They truly believe they are the legitimate Christian church and that the rest of the church went apostate when they declared that the Arian view was wrong.

    Furthermore, I think the lawsuit is bullshit. I think people honestly feel "noobs" are dumber than they think. And who cares if they bought BCH thinking it was BTC. If they discover their error in time, they can convert their BCH to BTC on a multitude of exchanges and any losses that they incur would be minimal. Shoot, in the past couple of days, the "error" would have actually made them come out ahead. Only snag would be if they ended up sending BCH to a BTC address in error.
    to

    I personally don't trust any "Father/God/Head" of XXX coin. They are all selfish and they invest for their own profit. I don't think they will be so generous to consider our profit.
    Sometimes, it is hard to call them "scammers" if they hurt our profit. They just select the way to save their own interests.

    Crypto has always been about taking profits. It's almost exclusively run by bots on the exchanges. The long term vision of crypto currencies is for the investor to take what they can, but know when to get in and when it's time to sell for a profit. 1/2 a trillion dollars marketcap isn't going anywhere. At this point it's where to jump in and where to get out. There's so much cash available that you almost can't lose with crypto.

    that long term vision you mention seems a little short sighted IMO.
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    May 06, 2018, 05:02:51 AM
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    Quote from: Bitbobb on May 06, 2018, 04:45:13 AM
    Quote from: whatsit on May 06, 2018, 04:42:37 AM
    Quote from: xlcus on May 06, 2018, 03:29:24 AM
    Quote from: bones261 on May 06, 2018, 01:38:02 AM
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    is a roger ver a scammer? I heard of a lawsuit against him but I trust him and his team. what do you think?

    I honestly feel Roger Ver feels Bitcoin Cash is the legitimate fork and more closely follows the original white paper. I don't think someone can be considered a scammer if they honestly believe what they are touting. After all, I do not think most Jehovah witnesses are "scammers.' They truly believe they are the legitimate Christian church and that the rest of the church went apostate when they declared that the Arian view was wrong.

    Furthermore, I think the lawsuit is bullshit. I think people honestly feel "noobs" are dumber than they think. And who cares if they bought BCH thinking it was BTC. If they discover their error in time, they can convert their BCH to BTC on a multitude of exchanges and any losses that they incur would be minimal. Shoot, in the past couple of days, the "error" would have actually made them come out ahead. Only snag would be if they ended up sending BCH to a BTC address in error.
    to

    I personally don't trust any "Father/God/Head" of XXX coin. They are all selfish and they invest for their own profit. I don't think they will be so generous to consider our profit.
    Sometimes, it is hard to call them "scammers" if they hurt our profit. They just select the way to save their own interests.
    going to hold their positions forever
    Crypto has always been about taking profits. It's almost exclusively run by bots on the exchanges. The long term vision of crypto currencies is for the investor to take what they can, but know when to get in and when it's time to sell for a profit. 1/2 a trillion dollars marketcap isn't going anywhere. At this point it's where to jump in and where to get out. There's so much cash available that you almost can't lose with crypto.

    that long term vision you mention seems a little short sighted IMO.

    day traders vs. HODLers is what makes the market what it is. There are too many people (whales) holding a significant amount of coins who are making the market what it is. Those jumbos aren't going to hold their positions forever. At which point all us little guys are going to take over the market. Free market economy is where we're heading and the sooner the better.

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    May 06, 2018, 05:41:16 AM
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    Roger Ver has always be a Bitcoin billionaire. People need to get over their jealousy. He bought thousands of BTC when they were pennies on the dollar. You know who else did that?  The Rothchilds. They bought the entire economy of the British Empire for pennies on the dollar after spreading rumors that the Napoleonic invasion had succeeded. As a result of the Rothchild takeover, everything you see and hear comes from a cabal that controls the media and politics in every country to this day. They are trillionaires. There is also no doubt that the spikes in crypto currency are a result of that same cabal, putting their investment into electronic money. Roger Ver is a small fish, but he is speaking truth to power. We can change the balance of power through crypto if we choose.

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    Quote from: whatsit on May 06, 2018, 05:41:16 AM
    Roger Ver has always be a Bitcoin billionaire. People need to get over their jealousy. He bought thousands of BTC when they were pennies on the dollar. You know who else did that?  The Rothchilds. They bought the entire economy of the British Empire for pennies on the dollar after spreading rumors that the Napoleonic invasion had succeeded. As a result of the Rothchild takeover, everything you see and hear comes from a cabal that controls the media and politics in every country to this day. They are trillionaires. There is also no doubt that the spikes in crypto currency are a result of that same cabal, putting their investment into electronic money. Roger Ver is a small fish, but he is speaking truth to power. We can change the balance of power through crypto if we choose.

    Roger Ver is fraud and greedy liar trying to steal the bitcoin brand in order to promote his shitcoin. His ultimate goal is to acquire more influence, power and money. Bcash has no intrinsc value or purpose whatsoever.

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    May 06, 2018, 08:16:45 AM
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    Quote from: cool4y on May 06, 2018, 07:52:36 AM
    Quote from: whatsit on May 06, 2018, 05:41:16 AM
    Roger Ver has always be a Bitcoin billionaire. People need to get over their jealousy. He bought thousands of BTC when they were pennies on the dollar. You know who else did that?  The Rothchilds. They bought the entire economy of the British Empire for pennies on the dollar after spreading rumors that the Napoleonic invasion had succeeded. As a result of the Rothchild takeover, everything you see and hear comes from a cabal that controls the media and politics in every country to this day. They are trillionaires. There is also no doubt that the spikes in crypto currency are a result of that same cabal, putting their investment into electronic money. Roger Ver is a small fish, but he is speaking truth to power. We can change the balance of power through crypto if we choose.

    Roger Ver is fraud and greedy liar trying to steal the bitcoin brand in order to promote his shitcoin. His ultimate goal is to acquire more influence, power and money. Bcash has no intrinsc value or purpose whatsoever.

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    May 06, 2018, 08:46:15 AM
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    Bitcoin is Cash

    SN + LN  is tech trash and got rid of economic players mobbing away the 2x part.

    BCH Winning.

    Trolls getting desperate, but are helping a lot by signaling the pace.


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    Posting that will only help BCH since fees for BTC dont help

    https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/8h8ro4/argentina_raises_interest_rates_to_40/
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    Quote from: cool4y on May 06, 2018, 07:52:36 AM
    Quote from: whatsit on May 06, 2018, 05:41:16 AM
    Roger Ver has always be a Bitcoin billionaire. People need to get over their jealousy. He bought thousands of BTC when they were pennies on the dollar. You know who else did that?  The Rothchilds. They bought the entire economy of the British Empire for pennies on the dollar after spreading rumors that the Napoleonic invasion had succeeded. As a result of the Rothchild takeover, everything you see and hear comes from a cabal that controls the media and politics in every country to this day. They are trillionaires. There is also no doubt that the spikes in crypto currency are a result of that same cabal, putting their investment into electronic money. Roger Ver is a small fish, but he is speaking truth to power. We can change the balance of power through crypto if we choose.

    Roger Ver is fraud and greedy liar trying to steal the bitcoin brand in order to promote his shitcoin. His ultimate goal is to acquire more influence, power and money. Bcash has no intrinsc value or purpose whatsoever.
    So I should ignore what the market is presently telling me? The market will decide, not some douchebag with Bitcoin core shoved so far up his ass that he thinks vinegar is the normal taste in his mouth.

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    May 06, 2018, 09:58:55 AM
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    Quote from: misterbigg on May 06, 2018, 09:48:52 AM
    I am a little bit scared of bitcoin lightning network, it can overcome our crypto bch or not? I don’t want to panicsell and I want to be prepared on the topic

    Meh. Lightning network still has some bugs to work out. How many years has this been in the works for the Blockstream team? I'll let all the other BTC fanboys alpha and beta test it for me. ATM I wouldn't worry too much about it it.

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    May 06, 2018, 10:27:03 AM
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    Quote from: Angel Di on May 06, 2018, 01:10:38 AM
    It is interesting to observe quite recently the big growth and big activity in this coin. Can anyone tell what exactly is growth?  And generally interested in approximate target price for 1 coin for the next month?

    More people realizing that BCH is Bitcoin.

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    Quote from: hv_ on May 06, 2018, 08:46:15 AM
    Bitcoin is Cash

    SN + LN  is tech trash and got rid of economic players mobbing away the 2x part.

    BCH Winning.

    Trolls getting desperate, but are helping a lot by signaling the pace.


     Cheesy


    Posting that will only help BCH since fees for BTC dont help

    https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/8h8ro4/argentina_raises_interest_rates_to_40/

    So desperate that they are trolling on memo.cash  Cheesy

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    Quote from: lsd400 on May 06, 2018, 10:38:09 AM
    Quote from: hv_ on May 06, 2018, 08:46:15 AM
    Bitcoin is Cash

    SN + LN  is tech trash and got rid of economic players mobbing away the 2x part.

    BCH Winning.

    Trolls getting desperate, but are helping a lot by signaling the pace.


     Cheesy


    Posting that will only help BCH since fees for BTC dont help

    https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/8h8ro4/argentina_raises_interest_rates_to_40/

    So desperate that they are trolling on memo.cash  Cheesy

    They are all invited.

    Thx to Bitcoin Cash they need to troll very decentralized now.

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    And more...

    Wonderful. Bye bye Netscape, BCH is your escape.
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    May 06, 2018, 01:49:02 PM
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    Quote from: Jantapw on May 06, 2018, 01:37:18 PM
    will bch overcome btc in the next months, years or not? I think it’s possible if we will have a larger community than btc!!

    If your actions are limited to cry fraud, scam and troll other competitors and splitting community also by trying to censor cypherpunks , you've kicked out most mearchants and stopped brutally adoption calling tx spam attack or tell all to wait 18months for sth that eventually fix scaling, and you try to be just a store of value , very much like not even gold really is today at the very end of a 4000 years lasting adoption process, then BTC looks very much done after less than 10years ...
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    May 06, 2018, 05:20:03 PM
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    Quote from: whatsit on May 06, 2018, 01:51:55 AM
    Nakamoto Satoshi ... has long since cashed out all of his pre-mine into the fiat currency that his coin was about challenging in the 1st place.

    Wrong on two counts. First, it was not a pre-mine, under the universally recognized definition of that term. More importantly, however, we know of 980,000 BTC that satoshi mined, and these can be seen still sitting unspent in the original addresses to which they were mined.

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    BCH is as close to the original idea of Bitcoin as was originally intended and BTC has become something different entirely.
    Anyway you slice it, BCH has altruistic intentions.

    I can heartily agree with you there.

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    BTC is also a viable currency, since it was the 1st

    Yes, but BCH was also the 1st. BTC and BCH are both forks of the satoshi genesis chain.

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    and branded the best, but I believe that if they don't change, they will be surpassed by other so called "altcoins"

    Agreed. I believe BTC is currently on a path to eventual irrelevance. It has a huge head start in the marketplace. But those that refuse to see the loss of market dominance -- exactly coincident with the scalepocalypse of several months back -- are wallowing in denial.
    Anyone with a campaign ad in their signature -- for an organization with which they are not otherwise affiliated -- is automatically deducted credibility points.

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    May 06, 2018, 05:21:21 PM
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    Quote from: hv_ on May 06, 2018, 08:46:15 AM
    Bitcoin is Cash
    BCH Winning.
    Trolls getting desperate, but are helping a lot by signaling the pace.
    Posting that will only help BCH since fees for BTC dont help
    I have a genuine doubt, why are the two teams battling out like a code war, both teams are trolling very well Grin , rather than taking this as a battle why don't they unite and take both their respective developments to new levels rather than trolling each other, if their is an opinion, you must hear their pitch before trolling the shit out, both developments are going in different directions and so why not both compete each other and the end user gets the best product. Wink
    The reason i came here is that, i downloaded the electron cash portable wallet, but the antivirus software blocks that and says it contains virus, has anybody has this problem or is it a false positive.
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