You know what's funny about your declaration? If you accept that Bitcoin Cash has no intrinsc [sic] value or purpose whatsoever, you need to also accept that Bitcoin Segwit has no intrinsic value or purpose whatsoever.

And we all know how ludicrous that assertion is.

Where can i found info about "Hard Fork 15 May 2018"??

Haha. I finally watched this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=zSbPz4g9rZQ

Think what you will about Roger Ver. But he objectively wipes the floor with Blockstream 'Chief Strategery Officer' Samson Mow in this moderated one-on-one debate on Bitcoin scaling.

Yes, this debate is the source of the widely derided 'babies are dying' quote. Which is indeed kind of cringey. But he's been consistent for nearly a decade in getting publicly weepy-emotional over the pain that bad fiscal governance causes the most vulnerable. Can't fault him for that passion. What's more: objectively, it is an arguable point.

But that aside, it is quite breathtaking how one-sided this debate was. Either Mow is a mere empty suit, or BCH is clearly superior in its scaling approach by every measure. Likely both.

True. OTOH, Bitcoin Cash is working spectacularly. So this point in your rebuttal is irrelevant.


ConfusedNickYoung.png Market cap is yuuuge in crypto. For you to make such a claim is quite simply astonishing.

Sure, some tokens game the market cap figures by only making a mere fraction of the total units available on the marketplace (I'm looking at you, Ripple). But many (i.e., most significant) coins can be meaningfully evaluated by market cap.

Are you trying to tell me that if BTCs market cap was $163 Million instead of $163 Billion, that would be substantially the same situation?

Or perhaps you think some shady and nefarious entity holds another 84M BCH, just awaiting the perfect chance to release them onto the marketplace?

Or that the vast majority of BCH was not awarded 1:1 to holders of BTC?

The second point in your rebuttal is irrelevant.


Argumentum ad hominum. Besides, see the preceding post.

Whatsit's argument is very weak!? Yours is comatose.

Well he makes a solid point but I think the problem is that many are not aware of the actual data.  The simple fact is that for a private credit to expand and contract there must always be a winner and looser somewhere else.  This has caused about 20% of the population on earth to be in a slow death at all times.  This would not be happening if we had a sound monetary system not based on theft and slight of hand.

samson mow has always been a troll and a lightweight. i don't really know how he wound up being listened to by anyone.

i'm still waiting to be convinced by lightning networks. the more details come out, the more unwieldy and unworldly it looks to me. but then so do giant blocks too.

LN has one thing, centralize transactions via the channels hub.

The supreme court ruled that talking to someone in a confined space for over 15 minutes is enough to influence them in a coercive manner.  This is why scientology lost their tax free status LOL.  In other words people are easy to hack.  Mow probably had big money backers and some slick mind science training is my guess.  

After watching him in that interview with Roger I got the feeling that he has some training at mind sciences and coercion.  In addition to all that even as he failed miserably on the content portion of his answers he tried desperately to preserve a cool calm and collected exterior.  He even signaled the moderator (successfully) at times to move on and cut off Roger.  

     Many people raised up in "command economies" wonder why the drive to innovate and produce is lost when production quotas become the only goal.  Similarly in such "command style" economies the main way to reform these 'free thinking types' is to socialize them back into "correct thinking".  I did notice some of that from Mow.  Oh well,  Roger saw it too and ran with it in the interview.  It was a joy to see him realize this in real time and pounce on it!  Thank you for all your hard work and dedication Roger Ver et al.  It is an honor to serve along side you!

What shall I do with my Bitcoin Cash in my Trezor hardware wallet for the coming hard fork on 15th May?
I think the investors give the positive feedback for this fork as the price reflected it.

Bitcoin Cash this coin will rise violently in the future, so we can bargain with the warehouse holder and wait for the lift.