Did you already reup to that link Killer? I got time to test it out now.

Alrighty, wish I could test out devcoind a bit more thoroughly, would be nice to see if it can handle patches.

Well, everything seems to be working fine now, I think it may have been related to a java issue that I just corrected.

Exactly, lol...

xchrix developed the cryptocoincharts site:
www.cryptocoincharts.info

and requested devcoins for the devcoin section:
http://www.cryptocoincharts.info/period-charts.php?period=1-month&resolution=day&pair=dvc-btc&market=vircurex

The charts are colorful and well designed. The devcoins units are in mBTC, which makes them easier to read because there are fewer zeros. The only problem I see is that the chart data only goes back to about Oct 16. Overall, the site gives devcoin exposure, so I suggest an ongoing maintenance payment of 1/5 of a share, as long as he keeps the devcoin part of his site going. Any objections?

I waited to answer until devtome was back up so I could give links. The eligibility rules are here:
http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=devcoin#developer

To summarize, if you're working on a well known project, like bitcoin, or
http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=open_transactions

then you'll go on the list. If you're working on another project which is useful; if that project is popular you'll go on, if no one else is using it you won't, if a few people are using it, maybe.

In any case, developers only get one ongoing share for development, if someone wants to earn a lot of devcoins, the way to do so is by writing for devtome:
http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=earn_devcoins_by_writing

I guess you realy didnt understand what the neurogem/cardiogem is all about. Its not a simple overpriced ECG. Its something total different.

1. Personaly i worked with philips medical devices, so i know ECG and EEG and i know what the price relations and the capabilities of such devices are.
2. The Neurogem/Cardiogem is able to calculate emotional states (no ordinary ecg eeg is able to display that)
3. The Neurogem is EEG based the Cardiogem is ECG based in one device but goes far beond that two basic functions.
4. The Cardiogem displays HRV http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heart_rate_variability
5. The Neurogem/Cardiogem is a Biofeedback device.
6. The Neurogem/Cardiogem is capable to measure two persons same time

I know its not easy to understand what this all is about, i see it from the lack uf understanding, but that was with ECA the same thing in the first place. I work with the Neuro/Cardiogem for years and i know what it is capable of, its amazing.


It is a Biofeedback device capable of doing realtime spectrum and coherence measurements and record it, it incorporates the functions of HRV and is capable to measure 2 persons in relation to each other. I hardly doubt that a ordinary ECG or HRV is capable to do that.
All the physics and mathematics behind the technology is published and opensource.
And yes you are right the goal is to acchive a opensource device, but it has to start somewhere.

I totaly agree and thats why i requested this.


Thats wrong, why should we support technology of the overpriced 20 century, when there is allready technology from the 21. century at our hand. And we realy dont need 10 million market capitalization to reach such goals. It seems to me that you think in the medical terminology of the USA what is totaly overpriced, and unrealistic. We should support developments in the medical sector that makes a more cheap but even higher quality diagnostics possible.

You do know these are merged mined right? The point is to get developers paid for their work, this is like charity work substrata, and it requires no extra work from miners.

Um, hello? Miners do not need to do anything at all, they simply get free coins for tiny amounts of work.


Not to keep network alive, but to prevent double-spends. I doubt that anybody wants to attack devcoin, so even 10% is probably too much.

Developers create demand for devcoins, they make it valuable, and miners get profit of that.

In other words, without developers DVC would be yet another worthless Bitcoin fork. You can as well mine testnet.

Mathematically, suppose X is value of 50,000 DVC in USD. Miners earn X * 0.1 for each block.

Suppose developer ABC creates something which adds additional demand for devcoins, thus driving exchange rate to X+x. Now miners get (X+x)*0.1 USD, thus they got x*0.1 of ABC's work per each block. Suppose this effect lasts for 10000 blocks, thus it makes sense to give ABC a bounty of at most 10000*x*0.1.

I'm fairly sure you do not understand economics of mining. In theory, miners are strictly profit-motivated, thus giving bigger share to miners would give network better security, and that's all. You get what you pay for, miners are not shafted.

However, merged mining essentially makes it a free ride.

Your sense of self-entitlement is frightening.

I should note I'm in no way affiliated with devcoin, I'm simply trying to explain obvious facts.

You do not need to have any hashrate specifically for devcoin thanks to merged mining, and network/CPU resources related to transaction verification are tiny.

Any while we are here, miners aren't in any sense noble. At start ordinary users were miners, so network was directly democratic. Then people started mining it for profit... Of course there is nothing wrong with it and it was anticipated, but need to understand that miners simply provide hashrate... You know, like utilities which provide you electricity. Your hashrate secures network, but it removes control from users. So you're like mercenaries, there is nothing nothing noble about it.

You aren't supposed to think about ethical questions, you simply get money for your hashrate and that's all. If certain network pays you less than what you could get elsewhere, then simply switch to highest paying network.

Of course there are miners who do not mine for profit, but those do not care whether they get 10% or 100% of a pie.