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    January 05, 2017, 02:35:55 PM
    Last edit: January 05, 2017, 04:00:57 PM by iamnotback
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    CoinCube, I am becoming very pessimistic about finding any fundamental, universal truth about choices we can make.

    I wrote the following before reading your most recent post. We were both writing at the same time.

    We are opportunity cost seeking actors. Inertial frames of reference will be vary for each actor.

    I agree that the system is over time driving towards greater degrees-of-freedom, but I don't see that anything fundamental is driving it. I provided my explanation for the Second Law of Thermodynamics:

    First of all, I want to explain why the Second Law of Thermodynamics dictates that energy must always disperse from a hot to a cold body, and not the reverse of a colder body giving up energy becoming colder and making the hot body hotter. This is because the equation for entropy of any system is maximized by having as many equiprobable possible states, i.e. the probability is very high that a hot body with its very highly probable collision of moving particles due to high kinetic energy will transfer some kinetic energy to the slower moving particles in the cold body because it maximizes the entropy of the combined system of hot and cold bodies together. But that is sort of a tautology. The point is that random events are unlikely to be able to keep a system highly ordered and concentrated, just as random twists on a Rubik's cube are unlikely to solve it. Since there can't exist any top-down omniscience in the universe, the probability of maintaining ordered systems trends towards zero on a large enough scale. This is why one can keep small things in order for a while, but large endeavors unravel more quickly. For the same reason, small things grow faster, such as a saplings grow to trees, but trees don't grow to the moon.

    Order is more impossible to maintain over asymptotic time horizons because it requires synchrony (coordination) which eventually becomes gridlock.

    Higher entropy (disorder) means greater randomness because every possible outcome is more equiprobable. This is related to information content in that if every possible outcome of the signal is equiprobable then there is no way to compress the signal. Whereas, if some patterns are more frequent than others, we can use for example RLE (run length encoding) to compress the more frequent instances replacing the pattern with a single symbol which is transmitted numerous times instead of transmitting the entire pattern numerous times.

    Readers might be confused as to why randomness is akin to information. Because predictability is not adding anything. It is new patterns that are unexpected which add newness and thus life. Without a trend towards maximum randomness, the universe would become static and thus the future and past would collapse into the same thing and life would cease to exist.

    In other words, the universe is an infinite journey of splitting matter into more possibilities. Life is the serendipity of matching our resonance to the inertial frames along that journey.

    I don't see anything fundamental that metaphysics offers or would need to offer to explain our existence.

    We simply can't exist without the trend to greater disorder, because the past and future would collapse into the same thing.

    Our notions of good and evil are just artifacts of our current epochs and inertial frames.

    Sorry I just don't think we are that special. There are other inertial frames out there we can't perceive. The universe is unbounded.

    We must operate within out perceived inertial frames as that is what matters to our perception of our opportunity cost. Therefor in our frames of relevance, we must construct these notions we have. And thus they are real for us.

    I wouldn't criticize your choices, because they are what you measured to be your optimum opportunity cost. But I don't think we really had a choice if we were acting rationally and presuming we could attain perfect omniscience about our opportunity costs. But in the sense that we can't attain such perfect prescience, I agree that we have some freedom of choice (but on the universe scale it is all random chaotic soup any way). And at that level of inspection, I think you can make arguments for certain choices and religion. But if I broaden my scope, I don't see any fundamental truth about choice at the universe scale.

    Edit: how can we have freedom of choice if we can't know the outcome of our choices, i.e. choices would be just akin to rolling a dice. Perhaps you tie this into statistical outcomes from certain choices, such a religion.
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