If to accumulate bitcoin right now is the solution, what if you accumulate right now and the price continues to be falling, will you be continue to accumulate, or the we one we have already we should continue to hold, I think that holding Bitcoin you have even though is falling every day is better to accumulate as it's falling every day, but when I will like to hold is when I have notice that the falling will not be something of drastical falling

The differences in investor character and mindset will be clearly visible in conditions like the current one. Investors who like to capitalize on opportunities they see before their eyes are usually long-term investors who generally never panic after buying and often buy more often than they sell. Meanwhile, investors who only think about waiting for Bitcoin's price to drop to take advantage of the opportunity to buy are usually those who like to find excuses, rather than seeking Bitcoin at lower prices, because they will continue to use these excuses when they see a price decline.

For those who have been anticipating this moment, perhaps now is the right time, but the question is, what are your plans, are you ready to ready to hold for a long term, because some folks just want to buy and sell immediately they see a little bit of profit they just rush and sell prematurely thereby wasting their chance of growing their investment due to short term gains, the idea isn't about buying in the dip alone, but to also hold for a longer period of time, which is a sure way to a good profit.

Are you serious?  Of course this is not a thread about trading and/or selling.. at least not selling until you spent a long time accumulating - perhaps 4-10 years or longer.

There are people selling because they either don't know what they are doing or they don't know why they are in bitcoin.  Otherwise, they might have had been in bitcoin for reasons of trying to make quick profits, like a trader.

Also, not everyone sells at a loss.  Some folks might have been buying for a while, and so they are in profits, maybe they have average buy prices of $75k or something like that, but they end up selling because they either want to lock in their profits or they think that they might be able to buy back cheaper.  Maybe their selling works out and maybe it does not.  Sometimes even bad practices might get lucky.. but many of us are trying to follow more solid long term investment strategies, even though surely sometimes it can take time to get used to investing in bitcoin and/or to learn how to both invest in bitcoin and to strengthen cashflow management systems and practices.  A person could be investing for a whole cycle or longer before starting to become more comfortable with his progress.

One good practice for a newbie investor is just to keep buying every week no matter the price, while working on following good cashflow management practices, and then reassess where you are at after doing that for a whole cycle.  Of course, you can reassess at any time you want, but many times you have to just let your system play out for several years before getting worked up about it and doing the wrong thing.. so ongoing buying helps.. and you just have to figure out an amount that is comfortable, whether it is $100 per week or $10 per week or some other amount that might be comfortable.


You cannot know for sure how far the dip will go or when it will stop dipping. It could end up dipping for years.

It seems to me if you are a newbie, and if your plan is to invest in the long run, then you would just be ongoingly accumulating.

I see from your forum registration that you have been registered on the forum for almost three years, so are you bothered that you have already accumulated bitcoin that is in profits, so that as the price continues to fall (if it does?), then you are no longer going to be in profits?  I can hardly imagine very many scenarios in which you would have had been able to invest enough or more than enough bitcoin in the last 3 years, unless you front loaded your investment - otherwise the BTC price has been going almost completely straight up for the past 3 years.

Maybe you are not really thinking in long terms, but you were planning to sell at some time this cycle? 

That does not sound like a good way to accumulate bitcoin, yet guys do all kinds of weird shit, and of course, if you are fucking around with a trading mentality, then it becomes difficult for anyone here to help you because you are already thinking about bitcoin in a way that is likely just going to get you into trouble in such ways that you are not really going to be able to profit very much in the long term because you are too busy fucking around and thinking in that same kind of a way.  You cannot resist but to want to sell, while at the same time, many guys here considering bitcoin in long term time frames.. and not getting confused by short term price fluctuations that could go in either direction.

No one here (or anywhere else for that matter) can tell you whether the BTC price is going to go up or down in the short term from here.. so you could end up selling your BTC and then the price goes up or you could end up buying more BTC and then the price ends up going down more. 

You have to figure out why the fuck you are in bitcoin in the first place.  Are you merely looking to try to flip whatever you bought in the past 3 years for 2x or 3x profits or something like that?  or do you have a longer term purpose?  I hear a lot of guys jumping into threads like this and talking about when they are going to take profits, as if they are doing the right thing.

You might have the same mindset and be confused and even be confusing yourself by listening and talking to others about bitcoin in those kinds of ways and not working towards getting into an investor (rather than a trader) kind of a mindset in regards to bitcoin. 

If you really were in an investor mindset then you should not be worried at all about these kinds of dips that happen in bitcoin all of the time, whether the top is in for this cycle or not.  Even guys trying to play the cycle will frequently get it wrong... since no one can really know when the top is going to be in or if it is already in for this particular cycle.


Wind_FURY is a retard, and he should not be trying to act as if he knows whether the BTC price will dip or not, and so it tends to be better to be ongoingly buying BTC rather fucking around waiting for dips that may or may not happen and acting as if Wind_FURY had any fucking clue about BTC prices going below $100k or that it was a good idea to wait to buy BTC at some later point rather than having a good practice in place that involved buying bitcoin regularly, consistently, persistently and even aggressively in the past 6 months while the BTC price was above $100k.

- especially newbies like you, ejikeme24.  You have ONLY been registered here for a little more than a year, and you have been fucking around waiting and holding back rather than buying regularly?  I doubt those kinds of practices or that way of thinking about your bitcoin accumulation process is helpful for you to build your bitcoin holdings.

It is well known that long-term investors should construct strong positions during the down turn. 
Most individuals claim to purchase when the price declines, only to find themselves scared when a dip occurs and too late in life they will end up missing the opportunity entirely.

Dollar-cost averaging is effective, since it eliminates feelings and allows one to continue investing regardless of how the market fluctuations occurred. Any person who hoards continuously throughout corrections tends to be ahead of the curve in the long term.

Eventually, no one can know when the bottom is just about to set in. Purchasing when the market is in a deep trough and retaining hold due to belief has in many other cases been a far more rewarding strategy to patient investors than attempting to know when the market is at its best.

How sure are you if they have already done so?
Because one bad thing about waiting for the dip is that the dip you may be waiting for may come, and you might not even buy anything at all because you might think that the price will drop further, and since nobody knows what will happen to the value of Bitcoin next, waiting before buying is not a logical choice since you may miss out on that valuable buying opportunity that may never come again.
That is why buying without paying attention at the price once your discretionary income is available is the logical choice, if you are truly thinking of holding for long, not for short term gains.

This kind of dip is the moment people pretend they are waiting for,  then when it actually comes, they freeze and start overthinking. Meanwhile the smart ones are just quietly stacking more, nothing dramatic.

Trying to time the lowest dip always ends the same way, you just watch the price leave you behind. Consistent buying and holding long term has always worked way better than waiting for the perfect entry..

Honestly, anyone that understands how Bitcoin moves will see this period as a blessing, not something to fear..

Just apply this to yourself without worrying about people who don't listen to other people's ideas and often dismiss them as negative when someone offers a brilliant idea like this. I will always use the best method of buying and holding for the long term, without bothering myself with people who like to trade short-term because we don't live in one day. So just take advantage of every opportunity and continue to use safe methods so you can consistently buy for long-term investment purposes, especially now that Bitcoin is still around $95,000, which is generally a very reasonable price for all investors.

Bitcoin has be cheap before since its not compulsory to buy 1 BTC ones, investors has been buying it fraction by fraction so this makes it not to be as expensive as people may think.

Gamblers will panic more now that the price is dipping because most of them are at lost, their plan was to buy and sell when the price increase but their plans has failed, investor who are holding for long won't panic since their plan is not to sell short term.

Those who are waiting for the dip before they can buy may not buy, some will be waiting for more dip to occur before they can buy this is one bad thing about waiting for the dip.

The idea that investors never sell Bitcoin is wrong. If they hold Bitcoin and do not use it at the right time, then there is no point in investing in Bitcoin. Those who invest in the right way, just as they systematically buy Bitcoin, they also systematically sell Bitcoin at the right time. Now let's say someone is 30 years old and starts investing for a period of 10 years. If he reaches the over-accumulation stage, then even if he retires from his job or his income stops, he will still be able to live his life by selling Bitcoin for  through sustainable withdrawals.