It took me nearly 2 years until I downloaded the newest version. Honestly, I like the older version because it automatically shows and computes the fee that I have to pay and how long it will take, it doesn't need to

There's still the speed that it shows on the newer version but I like more the older version when it's about showing the tx fee and how long it will take automatically by just moving and setting the adjustment button.

I guess this is just me that's still try to look at the newer version but otherwise, I've always liked wasabi wallet.

Good luck with that: Tornado Cash Adds Chainalysis Tool for Blocking OFAC-Sanctioned Wallets From Dapp

A few moments later...

Collaborating with chain surveillance companies and using sophisticated tools aimed at prevention of money laundering and terrorist financing didn't save them from being sanctioned by the US government.

It should be noted that this news article is four months old.

Now I'm starting to think that it's sheer hypocrisy if the same service that willingly compied with OFAC is suddenly blaclisted by it, and the same dev who voluntarily made it OFAC-compliant was the one arrested by the Dutch authorities.

I disagree. How is CoinJoin in its current form, as used by Wasabi and Samourai, less centralized? There is one server that can be shut down.
Even worse, if adding blockchain analysis is not enough to keep an operator from going to jail, maybe next step to remain in business is to let authorities backdoor the server and link inputs outputs? Who knows?

But is the blocking of "OFAC-Sanctioned Wallets" also just for the front end in WasabiWallet? I believe it's not, nopara37 has made the decision to block all UTXOs used for "illegal transactions" to enter Wasabi's actual pool.


For those providing liquidity, it protects their Bitcoins. For users, it's the assurance than none of the UTXOs are "tainted", whatever that means for the government. It's trade off if you want to use Wasabi, or if you don't, you can use ChipMixer.

Further to this, we have seen absolutely no evidence or even suggestion from anywhere other than Wasabi themselves (who obviously cannot be trusted) that their blacklisting coinjoin will produce outputs which centralized exchanges consider less tainted than any other coinjoin. And given that we know different exchanges use different but secret metrics for deciding on taint, there is no way that Wasabi could possibly satisfy all of them, short of censoring every input which isn't from a coinbase (not the exchange) transaction.

None of the UTXOs may be tainted according to zkSNACKs, which since their pro-censorship "upgrade", they listen to a chain analysis company (and not only that, but they even pay for that censorship). However, there's nothing stopping the rest chain analysis companies from treating these UTXOs as tainted. There isn't only one that's governing the space. There's Chainalysis, Elliptic, CipherTrace, Elementus, CoinMetrics etc.

Not only centralization on a technical level. They've had an unfair coin minting from the beginning (70% the current supply straight up to Vitalik's and his buddies' pockets!), undecided monetary policy, which means developers (can) act accordingly to theirs and the big sharks' benefit, and now they're launching the "Merge" (which is ironically the "Split") moving from Proof-of-Work to Proof-of-Stake* with the corresponded consequences.

*or as I call it, from neutral consensus mechanism to feudalism-based mechanism that doesn't produce consensus.

According to https://ethernodes.org/ out of 4885 ETH nodes, 65% are on "hostings" (remote servers or VPS) and out of those nodes 54% are hosted on Amazon servers.





Centralization of Ethereum runs a lot deeper than the nodes and their distribution. The fact that they have been easily pushing multiple forks and even a roll back that killed immutability of ethereum blockchain, is the most obvious evidence of the centralization.

Another interesting thing I just noticed was the new "upgrade" which the site claims 98% of the nodes have upgraded only in 2 months! Compare that with bitcoin, because of decentralization it takes a long time for nodes to upgrade to new versions. Core v23 released 4 months ago only has 29% share.

But that's not the point, and I'm not debating whether the "taint" is even real or not. The fact is, with the Tornado sanction, the government showed that it WILL sanction a non-person entity, a program for mixing outputs, if they see that it is mixing "tainted" outputs. I believe WasabiWallet's trade off, is merely trying to avoid a sanction by blocking "tainted" outputs. "Taint" as defined by "them", they invented it. Taint doesn't actually exist in the blockchain.

Off-topic? Do we actually need to establish the fact that WasabiWallet's pool = also its users? I'm sorry, I thought you already understood that, and that we're on the same page in that matter. But anyway, whether right or wrong, whether you agree or disagree, the point is nopara37 accepted the trade off, and the users also have a choice if they want to accept the trade off. Because anyone can use another mixer that doesn't blacklist outputs, or another team can run another coordinator that doesn't blacklist outputs.