Yeah... an IPO below market price... sure that fills up quickly.

I was not too late, actually I was the first to offer 1BTC if only we could discuss creating a foundation in stead of funding a privately owned limited!:

https://community.gulden.com/t/help-us-get-nocks-and-gulden-on-the-app-store/1285/9?u=ltex

But that's the whole reason this discussion exists isn't it? The way this works is simple:

-We decided to do this and need cash
-Everyone who backs this gets cheap NLG for their support
-Dont ask questions, we don't like that, just put up the cash and STFU!
-If you do have questions, don't share them with us, we will ignore you, shut you out and try to blame you for any damage that comes from our dictatorial behavior...

I actually never used the word 'dev team' because we do not know anything how things are decided behind the curtains so it might well have been that you didn't know anything about this. It is indeed an attack but a attack with founded argument( at least on my side) that such a decision is not the devs team to make but everyone's decision, the Bitcoin devs got in trouble lately with similar issues. There should  have been a democratic voting with such a big decision and not just a dev team decision, bypassing the entire community is just not appropriate, although i do partially agree with the outcome of the decision.
Anyway, it's done now so no going back, i just hope that next time we will have a voice in similar matters, just forum talk won't cut it, we need official voting for such big decisions.

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No, they just need to stop deciding single-handedly on everything and at least honor serious questions by serious members with an answer (decent or not)!

@MaNI, so if you consider yourself as part of the whole team. What's your opinion about the community members that feel like they are ignored and held back by the dev team? How do you as a team plan to improve that? The discussion about IPO for the iOS app is just one example, the problem is (and long time has been) bigger than that.

And don't use the open source of the wallet as an excuse for guarantee that everything will be fine, you should know better that that is a false excuse.

Oehw that sounds like a threat, keep it going.

You offered a whole Bitcoin but only after someone talk with you? I guess you got a better deal at the local psych?
In the meantime people bought via BCT and other fora and backdoors as well. Again you were too late.

I guess you better go for Morloch finish Guldex en become an Eloy one day. Did you made the 50k bet will Guldex fail too? I still wait for a test account...

Very not true and you know. I only questioned your so called market stabilisator which is damaging te growth of Gulden imo. I never brought up anything about price/moon stuff. This is something that is constant in your mind. You are singing out loud when the price goes down but when price goes up you always talk about PnD. How can you be so wrong about me? Like I said before... stop this and put some more positive energy in your Gulden projects.

I cannot speak about incidences that have happened before I have joined, however quite honestly I feel that the current complaints are completely unfounded for the most part, at least from the most vocal people, there may be less vocal people who have legitimate concerns but I wouldn't know as I have not heard from them.
I think that these people are still reacting based on things that have happened in the past, and not on what is happening now, I ask these people to let go of the past and focus on the present.

In this particular instance, an offer was made to the community at large, the overwhelming majority accepted it, one or two people did not.
One in particular (LTex) was very loud and vocal about it, and made a counter offer - the counter offer would have involved (a) Doing multiple things in a way that LTex prescribed (b) Taking money from only one person, something that is (at least in my opinion) far more prone to corruption as it lends power and influence to that individual.
Faced with the choice of going with the original plan - which the community at large accepted and was happy to fund with an overwhelmingly fast response - or going with a less desirable plan that came with various terms we were not happy with we took the first - this seems to me reasonable. Roel, on behalf of the team tried to address LTex's concerns on the forum as much as reasonable, however the team cannot and will not be beholden to a small minority of the community, no decision of any importance will ever have 100% backing of everybody.

I can assure you that had the response from the *community at large* been negative and not so overwhelmingly positive, then it would have been a completely different story.

I'm sure we will continue to discuss as a team what we can improve and where as well as continuing to take pointers from the community at large. However, and this is important, for any decision there will always be people who do *not* get there way, and we simply cannot control how those people feel or react to this.

I know no such thing. Nobody can 'own' open source code, especially if they are not even the people working on it.
Ask Oracle how 'owning' OpenOffice or various other open source products worked out for them, the second they bought it the developers all fled, eventually out of desperation they gave OpenOffice away to Apache but still it is a has been with a completely new fork LibreOffice rising in its place.