EFL wouldn't have gotten anywhere even without a foundation, so that is a bad excuse.

AUR has a foundation because the Icelandic people wanted a central body for the Icelandic media and government to contact, and to host the part of the premine, as its unknown creator wanted. Iceland also has strict currency laws, which needed to be sorted out. The Netherlands don't have them. We communicate with them about possible development decisions, and we want to have them make some, but if they don't decide anything the other non-foundation members have just as much to say about it. The slower pace of development is not due to the foundation, but many of the development members are often busy IRL (I am also busy with NLG, spreading my limited time between the two), and we had a legacy to handle, which has been a bit inconvenient. The things I'm currently developing for AUR can also be used for NLG, but for some things we have to reinvent the wheel as the code is not freely available (e.g. the seed node monitoring system).

Wow nice pic and good work!

I just mentioned how things run at AUR how I see it, by no means I wanted to compare it with NLG (I don't know how busy the NLG dev team is).

That's just all assumptions (both from my and your side)... and a discussion I don't feel like having (I didn't want discuss AUR matters here as it is off-topic). My experience so far is that the AUR foundation is not slowing development. I speak from a personal point of view. If team members say they are busy IRL, I don't question that. Everyone should do what they think is right. If spending more time with family, work or study results in lesser productivity in our team, well so be it. I don't feel like having a contest about which team is the most busiest IRL.

That's all I'm going to say about it.

There are no "leaders", nor "dictators".

There is only a blockchain, which can either be followed, or not 

I don't know where people always get the impression that I want to take control or things of be the leader here? As far as I'm concerned I am nothing more than an active community member that sometimes stops and thinks for a while and raises serious and founded questions.

Also the ideas some here have that I'm in a fight with the dev team is totally unfunded. For the record I think we have to consider ourselves very lucky to have such an excellent team with MaNi, CED and Rijk. The absolute amazing work they deliver every time makes me proud to be part of this project. Technically I would chose them to be on my team any time!

The reason recent discussions got out of hand is due to the fact that I (and with me a lot of other members of this community) think there is more to this than just amazing and awesome technical development. We are all full of the fact that this coin is going to be great in the long term and that we are all investing in this long term prophecy.

To me, as a businessman and investor, I like to think beyond the awesomeness of todays amazing achievements. I foresee a great future for Gulden, but that also means I think about things like legal aspects of that growth and the implications certain developments like larger user base and the demand for official treaties that come once we reach that sudden growth.

This cals for insights that I sometimes miss in the actions that our Guldenteam takes. I never criticize them or in any way judge their characters. I do however, ask questions and suggest alternatives as talkpiece in constructive discussions. Last time that was made impossible once more by the fact the team refused to respond or engage in that discussion.

By the reactions of the developers like MaNi and CED I also sense they mistake my reserves towards the gulden team (the entire team, responsible for every aspect of actions taken) as an attack on the dev team (the team responsible for technical development of algo, wallets and apps). I also see some members here making that same misjudgment. I have absolutely nothing, repeat nothing against the way the dev team delivers right now. I do have questions for the decisions that are made on a more organizational scale.

That is why I try to involve the community here and on other forums in those discussions and hope that the Gulden team will do so as well.

Most of us are absolutely convinced that Gulden is going to become totally awesome and hell yeah, so do I! Lets use each others expertise to make it happen and not just sit back and wait for our, very capable, dev team do it for us!

My expertise is Marketing - Organization and Management and I'm here to serve!

I don't lose credibility just because a troll that has produced nothing but unfounded accusations say so. Now where is that ignore button again?

So you are telling me 1680club, kwartjeterug and AUR have been a succes of epic proportions?
Really   Who is the real troll?

Let's not forget that kwartjeterug was going to take Gulden mainstream.
That's the way it was hyped.

Now you are saying me it is the other way around?

When time is right it will, i'm sure. But such a project needs cooperation with all involved and good organisation also for good service to deliver.

I think it is best to be positive

All want the best, just unite and no suspicion.