I don't have it on list.

I do. And it's a pretty expensive option, BTW.

It's called "bait and switch".

Catching up on this thread, I find this. If this is true, then this is where I call foul. The purpose of the meeting(s) is to assure the buyers that all is on the up-and-up prior to accepting any moneys.

I find it extremely hard to cope with the current development. In Germany the cc chargeback is only valid for 2 months, not 120 days like in the UK. I had (and have again) orders pending for around 45k. And now I have to pay the full amount in 7 days? Are they insane? They have one video of the product, the open day was not yet and they expect me to pay them most of my savings 4 months in advance without securities? I would be willing to send them maybe 10k now and the rest upon delivery, but certainly not more...

Just called KNC (seems like great support so far), he told me we have to place our orders (the same amount or less we preregistered) and the payment date (the date when it leaves my bank account) counts. The will match your order with your place in the queue.

It is possible to use different payment method if you split up in different orders. Means f.e. 1 order to pay with bitcoins and 1 with paypal is possible.

He said the will be absolutely able to deliver Jupiters in time (i said i hope we´ll get them this year, "delays measure in couple of days"), they have "10 years of experience" and "lot of global fundries" to manage even the 28nm challenge.

For me it sounded pretty well and confident, however, now its about to get the freakin money..

Damn, the fact that they are encouraging people to pay just BEFORE the open day with their lottery thingy sounds strange to say the least.

Also all this changes at the last minute...

..and yes - to cope with the strange development. Why didnt they wait another 2 weeks for the people to get confident? Hmm..

From the KNCMiner Email:

All I can say is WOW.This is taking the BFL Model to the next level.

Their logic is WE want to GIVE them money, and WE DON'T WANT a product in return (Mars), but WE INSIST on forking over money to them so that in return we might see a product (Saturn, Jupiter) some time in the near future.

Amazing.