The photoshopping never bothered me.  I really will be kicking myself if this is all genuine. The bitcoin price for three units I was due to pay was pre the recent price crash.

It was the ATX connector overlapping the SM resistor is what rang the most alarm bells for me. Adding an ATX connector could have been an afterthought I guess, but then what are those signal tracks that appear to go underneath it?  I guess we will just have to wait and see.

 

I'm concern that there's something leaching out of ASIC chips, for all those companies who produce bitcoin miners with them start losing all concept of time.

http://cedartec.net/index.php


http://cedartec.net/news.php


I thought this company was dead on arrival about the time I posted my steampunk image. Now I've read that people actually sent this outfit nonrefundable bitcoins.

http://web.archive.org/web/20010705222345/http://www.cedartec.ch/



http://web.archive.org/web/20070312084632/http://www.cedartec.ch/?id=103

ZOMG they are terrorists and the asics are really bombs!

Send them an email, ask to visit them to film the prototype. They have not announced starting mass production so they probably dont have any other device then the prototype.

there will probably be delays if they do have to go with a pcb redesign to handle the higher power consumption required to reach their target. Delays would seriously further injure their image if they still do not have irrevocable proof.

I am sorry to tell you that it is either you are very sleep deprived or you lack proper understanding of the language. "ask to visit them to film the prototype" Visiting them is a requirement in the sentence hence "filming" is a reference to my doing.

-_-!

Would you kick yourself more if you lost all that money as opposed to the difference between prior and post BTC fall?

At the end of the day buddy I don't want you loosing money. If I continue to play devils advocate I would acknowledge the fact these guys monitor the forum and are fully aware of the accusations cast, they're clued up to what concerns are being raised, tech savvy and are able to afford the luxury of time to respond appropriately and convincingly.

Perhaps there is a tiny benefit of the doubt chance this is for real, doubt that they have intentionally cast. The 'proof' is far too conveniently evasive and they need to provide something undeniably genuine, this is the key; undeniably. To me that means impartial third party.

As of yet there has been nothing, no proof what so ever other than a consented effort to wash around supposed facts, poor photos with iPhones conveniently placed, poor video that has no reason to be as shoddy, whatever the reason, make another, oh we can't just yet were busy, yes you can, if you an reply to email you can take a relatively high res video and photo on the iPhone 4S we know you are in possession of and upload it, it won't inconvenience you considering what you are asking people to do. They are accepting funds with no significant proof whatsoever.

Do you realise what this would do to BFL and to a lesser extent Avalon if this is real? BFL would be dead in the water.

My gut says no, but you pays your money you takes your chances and this is the key here; chance.

Chance ain't confirmation enough for me to cough up. There more against than for

Anonymousg64 I honestly believe they are selling you what you want to here, sweet sugary answers, and are buying more time.

I've emailed the Chinese company, no response yet, but it's the weekend. You really think they have sent their staff to China?!!

after a bit of research it seems ionstorm is right,
its the only one i could find listed online in that area

http://www.alpcb.com.cn/Contact_Us/

altho i could not find that company in the china yellow pages