I don't want to see peeps get ripped off, I don't know why this is so hard to appreciate.

*If they are legit, I'm sure they will welcome you in their pre-order.

The videos and previous pictures were not of working ASIC miners. There's no disputing that.
WHY?

Because they are badly photoshopped, cloning tool was especially blatent and deliberately obscuring

The reasons for photoshopping have been provided, other then that photoshoping does not prove a non functional device, so we dont know[

But scrap the *if that I wrote, it's the most dangerous word in this thread.

But I'm keen to see anyone produce a working miner right now and manufacture it in volume.

Still nothing on who these guys are, or their experience, all we do know is they haven't posted any proof, yet and gone out of their way to deceive.
gone out of their way to deceive, only if you believe they were out to deceive

as before


This thread is entertaining sure, like a soap opera, just don't get emotionally or financially involved unless you've seen the real thing and it's been verified. That doesn't just apply here.

The only possible outcome to them producing a miner is that they sourced contacts with the interest they had and decided to actually produce something, but their entire intention with their bullshit 'evidence' so far has been to con people. There is no disputing that, I'm no less suspicious.
Unlikely, they needed at least a design for the asic chip and the pcb and the firmware and the software

you're right, see your quite capable of confirming this as a scam as well

But i meant unlikely to do what you are proposing in a decent time frame


Returning one payment is merely a gesture, have to see what the intention is.
And now they closed there order form and set a new policy

yes, I believe I wrote they should immediately after their last attempt at communicating

so they followed your suggestion?


Now Ionstorm hold on to your cash and do not give it back.