yawn.

If they're a legit business, how about they give us their full business details?

Business registration/ Chamber of commerce numberpĥone number/bank account number etc.

I mean... all their setup is based on anonymity, hardly a way to raise confidence. Also, they seem to have an ASIC capable of delivering 8GH/s per chip, that's more than 30x what an Avalon can do and they're selling it for close to 1/10th the price...

There is seriously someone who thinks they're legit (apart from anonymousg64 and ionstorm)?

I just requested a refund, we will find out within 12 hours

or they're in on it

Which is odd as it's 6.30pm there now.

Yes as in very late/ early morning...for a Lebanese located company. They must be burning the midnight oil in tune with their Chinese manufacturers, and all the staff they have located there - the consummate professionals they are!

Still we can expect a decent picture of some Lebanese and Chinese guys working together as proof. Be a piee of piss for them to provide seeing as they are physically located there and awake at the same time, plus Cedertec all have iPhone's you know (and bad photoshop skillz).

when do we get to "officially" declare this a SCAM?

I fear it's all on anonymousg64 to give up the ghost...

Look, basically the entire point is they won't admit anything as they want to keep their site and payments live. They are advertising in other forums aside this and naive idiots are omnipresent.

$1,000 + a day is not bad monies when you have nothing to show for it.

They need to update the first post and their website with updated shipping information, refund me and anyone who asks and provide some more information on their product and the issues they are having.  They need to build some respect in the community, right now their reputation is pretty bad, if they are for real I hope this improves and that they are a bit less secretive about themselves and their manufacturer.  Honestly, the best thing they could do at this point is possibly open source their board or provide some correspondence between them and manufacturers to prove that they are actually working on something.  

It wouldnt take very long for someone to come up with a different type of asic board and write up a webgui that looks real, also they should consider shipping some demo units to some respectable members or a site like coding in my sleep for a teardown and review.  Anything is possible right now, they could be a scammer or a legit small group of people in over their heads, they themselves said wait for proof before ordering, that does not make them any less a scammer but it does give us something to think about.  Lets wait for them to prove themselves, keep your bitcoin on the ready and we'll see what happens.  If anything that this proves, it proves that their needs to be an affordable asic available to buy that has decent ROI/profits and proves that BFL and avalon could be producing machines that are much cheaper.  I ordered 64 chips from steamboat in hopes I get a DIY asic, but even them the wait time could be around the same as waiting for a BFL asic.  If they are struggling and are legit I appologize for being a dick and suggesting that they are a scammer, just wish they were more transparent.  

if they dont refund him and me this is definitely a scam, and have this topic closed, then we should work on getting their site shut down