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    August 31, 2018, 03:10:55 AM
     #3941
    Quote from: o48o on August 30, 2018, 09:17:03 PM
    Quote from: Thadeous on August 30, 2018, 10:34:43 AM
    Concerning why HitBTC delisted Envion (EVN).
    See Terms of Service:

    9. NO OFFER OF SECURITIES

    9.1. HitBTC endeavors all possible measures to be sure that crypto assets that are available via the Technology Platform cannot be classified as "security" by SEC and/or other competent national authorities. Moreover, HitBTC represents that it never intended or desired to make tokens and/or coins that can be classified as "security" available via Technology Platform.
    9.2. The responsibility for the fact that the instrument cannot be treated as “security” lies with the owner of token and/or coin. If there is any risk or speculations that token and/or coin can be treated as “security”, the Technology Platform reserves the right to prohibit and discontinue any transactions on our Technology Platform with such tokens and/or coins at its sole discretion.
    9.3. We follow the best practices to decide whether crypto asset is security or not. However, We give no warranty and/or investment, financial, legal or any other professional advice, that any crypto asset available via our Technology Platform is not a security.

    https://hitbtc.com/terms-of-use


    Funny because Envion were very clear from the start and admitted it would be a security token. Maybe HitBTC just didn't want to do enough digging. Like reading the whitepaper or something like that.

    Also "funny" that it happened right when Finma investigation started looks more like Finma contacted Hitbtc and they responded to be in compliance.
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    August 31, 2018, 09:07:52 AM
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    Quote from: sluppy on August 31, 2018, 03:10:55 AM
    Quote from: o48o on August 30, 2018, 09:17:03 PM
    Quote from: Thadeous on August 30, 2018, 10:34:43 AM
    Concerning why HitBTC delisted Envion (EVN).
    See Terms of Service:

    9. NO OFFER OF SECURITIES

    9.1. HitBTC endeavors all possible measures to be sure that crypto assets that are available via the Technology Platform cannot be classified as "security" by SEC and/or other competent national authorities. Moreover, HitBTC represents that it never intended or desired to make tokens and/or coins that can be classified as "security" available via Technology Platform.
    9.2. The responsibility for the fact that the instrument cannot be treated as “security” lies with the owner of token and/or coin. If there is any risk or speculations that token and/or coin can be treated as “security”, the Technology Platform reserves the right to prohibit and discontinue any transactions on our Technology Platform with such tokens and/or coins at its sole discretion.
    9.3. We follow the best practices to decide whether crypto asset is security or not. However, We give no warranty and/or investment, financial, legal or any other professional advice, that any crypto asset available via our Technology Platform is not a security.

    https://hitbtc.com/terms-of-use


    Funny because Envion were very clear from the start and admitted it would be a security token. Maybe HitBTC just didn't want to do enough digging. Like reading the whitepaper or something like that.

    Also "funny" that it happened right when Finma investigation started looks more like Finma contacted Hitbtc and they responded to be in compliance.


    Also funny that same happened with Universa (UTNP) and Doacademic (MTC) about a month ago, both were desisted from HitBTC.
    Finma is so merciless! Grin

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    August 31, 2018, 09:24:06 AM
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    Anybody have info what is next step will be of the dev to make it list on any other exchange or we don't have any chance to see this on new exchange. It is long time when token still not trading on any good exchange and the founder is also not interested to take care of this project.

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    August 31, 2018, 09:27:19 AM
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    Quote from: Odeoke on August 31, 2018, 09:24:06 AM
    Anybody have info what is next step will be of the dev to make it list on any other exchange or we don't have any chance to see this on new exchange. It is long time when token still not trading on any good exchange and the founder is also not interested to take care of this project.

    We don't know exactly what happening and no update from the team and even their progress about the project and dividends to the token holders. The announcement will help the community that they have some hope on this project.

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    August 31, 2018, 10:38:23 AM
     #3945
    Quote from: sluppy on August 31, 2018, 03:10:55 AM
    Quote from: o48o on August 30, 2018, 09:17:03 PM
    Quote from: Thadeous on August 30, 2018, 10:34:43 AM
    Concerning why HitBTC delisted Envion (EVN).
    See Terms of Service:

    9. NO OFFER OF SECURITIES

    9.1. HitBTC endeavors all possible measures to be sure that crypto assets that are available via the Technology Platform cannot be classified as "security" by SEC and/or other competent national authorities. Moreover, HitBTC represents that it never intended or desired to make tokens and/or coins that can be classified as "security" available via Technology Platform.
    9.2. The responsibility for the fact that the instrument cannot be treated as “security” lies with the owner of token and/or coin. If there is any risk or speculations that token and/or coin can be treated as “security”, the Technology Platform reserves the right to prohibit and discontinue any transactions on our Technology Platform with such tokens and/or coins at its sole discretion.
    9.3. We follow the best practices to decide whether crypto asset is security or not. However, We give no warranty and/or investment, financial, legal or any other professional advice, that any crypto asset available via our Technology Platform is not a security.

    https://hitbtc.com/terms-of-use


    Funny because Envion were very clear from the start and admitted it would be a security token. Maybe HitBTC just didn't want to do enough digging. Like reading the whitepaper or something like that.

    Also "funny" that it happened right when Finma investigation started looks more like Finma contacted Hitbtc and they responded to be in compliance.


    Yeah, one would see a connection on that Smiley I would think that Finma asked to unlist it, not because it was a security, but because it was under investigation and they were seeing that it's probably illegal to trade it now. As the whole token could be worth nothing.
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    September 01, 2018, 04:34:44 PM
     #3946
    Quote from: o48o on August 30, 2018, 09:17:03 PM
    Quote from: Thadeous on August 30, 2018, 10:34:43 AM
    Concerning why HitBTC delisted Envion (EVN).
    See Terms of Service:

    9. NO OFFER OF SECURITIES

    9.1. HitBTC endeavors all possible measures to be sure that crypto assets that are available via the Technology Platform cannot be classified as "security" by SEC and/or other competent national authorities. Moreover, HitBTC represents that it never intended or desired to make tokens and/or coins that can be classified as "security" available via Technology Platform.
    9.2. The responsibility for the fact that the instrument cannot be treated as “security” lies with the owner of token and/or coin. If there is any risk or speculations that token and/or coin can be treated as “security”, the Technology Platform reserves the right to prohibit and discontinue any transactions on our Technology Platform with such tokens and/or coins at its sole discretion.
    9.3. We follow the best practices to decide whether crypto asset is security or not. However, We give no warranty and/or investment, financial, legal or any other professional advice, that any crypto asset available via our Technology Platform is not a security.

    https://hitbtc.com/terms-of-use
    Funny because Envion were very clear from the start and admitted it would be a security token. Maybe HitBTC just didn't want to do enough digging. Like reading the whitepaper or something like that.

    I know from the first day that this token was seen as security. So why they listed it if this was obvious? Now delisted because of that, just insane and hilarious. I think HitBtc listed it because they thought to make fast money on a scam. Not for the first time of course.
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    September 01, 2018, 05:30:52 PM
     #3947
    Quote from: crypto mania on September 01, 2018, 04:34:44 PM
    Quote from: o48o on August 30, 2018, 09:17:03 PM
    Quote from: Thadeous on August 30, 2018, 10:34:43 AM
    Concerning why HitBTC delisted Envion (EVN).
    See Terms of Service:

    9. NO OFFER OF SECURITIES

    9.1. HitBTC endeavors all possible measures to be sure that crypto assets that are available via the Technology Platform cannot be classified as "security" by SEC and/or other competent national authorities. Moreover, HitBTC represents that it never intended or desired to make tokens and/or coins that can be classified as "security" available via Technology Platform.
    9.2. The responsibility for the fact that the instrument cannot be treated as “security” lies with the owner of token and/or coin. If there is any risk or speculations that token and/or coin can be treated as “security”, the Technology Platform reserves the right to prohibit and discontinue any transactions on our Technology Platform with such tokens and/or coins at its sole discretion.
    9.3. We follow the best practices to decide whether crypto asset is security or not. However, We give no warranty and/or investment, financial, legal or any other professional advice, that any crypto asset available via our Technology Platform is not a security.

    https://hitbtc.com/terms-of-use
    Funny because Envion were very clear from the start and admitted it would be a security token. Maybe HitBTC just didn't want to do enough digging. Like reading the whitepaper or something like that.

    I know from the first day that this token was seen as security. So why they listed it if this was obvious? Now delisted because of that, just insane and hilarious. I think HitBtc listed it because they thought to make fast money on a scam. Not for the first time of course.
    i think hitbtc declared envion scam project...
    hitbtc knows envion got scammed by envion ceo and they delisted evn from exchange...
    there is no chance that founders can save this project ....

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    September 01, 2018, 05:41:56 PM
     #3948
    Any reason why they have password protected posts now? And how do you create a password anyway?

    https://envion-founders.org/envion-ag-raised-more-than-100-million-among-investors-in-the-euphoria-surrounding-cryptocurrencies-then-the-startup-crashed-into-chaos-a-virtual-thriller/

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    September 01, 2018, 05:47:42 PM
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    Quote from: Joona on September 01, 2018, 05:41:56 PM
    Any reason why they have password protected posts now? And how do you create a password anyway?

    https://envion-founders.org/envion-ag-raised-more-than-100-million-among-investors-in-the-euphoria-surrounding-cryptocurrencies-then-the-startup-crashed-into-chaos-a-virtual-thriller/

    It's part of the super scam project you can expect anything from this super intelligent team. They don't want to let know new people about their stupid stories I think now we have very smart chance to see this project live.

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    September 01, 2018, 07:40:24 PM
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    Quote from: Joona on September 01, 2018, 05:41:56 PM
    Any reason why they have password protected posts now? And how do you create a password anyway?

    https://envion-founders.org/envion-ag-raised-more-than-100-million-among-investors-in-the-euphoria-surrounding-cryptocurrencies-then-the-startup-crashed-into-chaos-a-virtual-thriller/

    Well this is just weird. Could this be somehow linked to that their lawyers or Finma would have told them to avoid communication on the subject until it's solved? Far fetched but that's the only reason i can speculate.
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    September 02, 2018, 02:17:36 AM
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     #3951
    Quote from: dishku on September 01, 2018, 05:47:42 PM
    Quote from: Joona on September 01, 2018, 05:41:56 PM
    Any reason why they have password protected posts now? And how do you create a password anyway?

    https://envion-founders.org/envion-ag-raised-more-than-100-million-among-investors-in-the-euphoria-surrounding-cryptocurrencies-then-the-startup-crashed-into-chaos-a-virtual-thriller/

    It's part of the super scam project you can expect anything from this super intelligent team. They don't want to let know new people about their stupid stories I think now we have very smart chance to see this project live.

    It's about 8 months since they've closed their sales with over $100 million raised. If nothing concrete has yet been done for this project, I do not see how it would do from now on. Good luck.

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    September 03, 2018, 10:56:13 AM
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    Quote from: Joona on September 01, 2018, 05:41:56 PM
    Any reason why they have password protected posts now? And how do you create a password anyway?

    https://envion-founders.org/envion-ag-raised-more-than-100-million-among-investors-in-the-euphoria-surrounding-cryptocurrencies-then-the-startup-crashed-into-chaos-a-virtual-thriller/

    It's waited to be approved. And they will remove the password after approving. This what I got from the Telegram channel.

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    September 03, 2018, 12:32:13 PM
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    what about people that want to sell Envion tokens? I mean, for the ones that accept the loss, someone can help them to sell their tokens? How they should move now that there are no opened markets?

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    September 03, 2018, 12:59:56 PM
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    Quote from: Roidz92 on September 03, 2018, 12:32:13 PM
    what about people that want to sell Envion tokens? I mean, for the ones that accept the loss, someone can help them to sell their tokens? How they should move now that there are no opened markets?

    This is worse situation for all investors even some people were crying about this and in future this token will die after looking the drama of the team. Now it is happening and nobody can help this token to survive and provide nice solution to early investors.

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    September 03, 2018, 02:29:20 PM
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    Quote from: Roidz92 on September 03, 2018, 12:32:13 PM
    what about people that want to sell Envion tokens? I mean, for the ones that accept the loss, someone can help them to sell their tokens? How they should move now that there are no opened markets?

    Market conditions are red, I think selling coins and tokens that have a chance to zero is a better thing, and Envion is a token that is most likely to be worthless, sell EVN now before zero or deleted from the markets.

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    Quote from: Roidz92 on September 03, 2018, 12:32:13 PM
    what about people that want to sell Envion tokens? I mean, for the ones that accept the loss, someone can help them to sell their tokens? How they should move now that there are no opened markets?

    I think now is the worst time to sell any token.

    For those who want to trade EVN can use Token.Store or Yobit:
    https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/envion/#markets

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    September 03, 2018, 04:22:21 PM
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    Quote from: Thadeous on September 03, 2018, 03:54:20 PM
    Quote from: Roidz92 on September 03, 2018, 12:32:13 PM
    what about people that want to sell Envion tokens? I mean, for the ones that accept the loss, someone can help them to sell their tokens? How they should move now that there are no opened markets?

    I think now is the worst time to sell any token.

    For those who want to trade EVN can use Token.Store or Yobit:
    https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/envion/#markets

    That really depends on the token. Imho it's not foolish to sell something on where you can literally lose the whole investment, not just 95%. But generally yeah, markets seen little bit brighter now.
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    September 03, 2018, 06:37:55 PM
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    Quote from: Thadeous on September 03, 2018, 03:54:20 PM
    Quote from: Roidz92 on September 03, 2018, 12:32:13 PM
    what about people that want to sell Envion tokens? I mean, for the ones that accept the loss, someone can help them to sell their tokens? How they should move now that there are no opened markets?

    I think now is the worst time to sell any token.

    For those who want to trade EVN can use Token.Store or Yobit:
    https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/envion/#markets

    Very few projects are now on the plus. Most of the market is on minus investment in ICO, so I do not see a good idea to sell, just because it does not lose everything or invest in something else. Good luck.

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    September 04, 2018, 12:04:52 AM
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    Quote from: o48o on September 03, 2018, 04:22:21 PM
    Quote from: Thadeous on September 03, 2018, 03:54:20 PM
    Quote from: Roidz92 on September 03, 2018, 12:32:13 PM
    what about people that want to sell Envion tokens? I mean, for the ones that accept the loss, someone can help them to sell their tokens? How they should move now that there are no opened markets?

    I think now is the worst time to sell any token.

    For those who want to trade EVN can use Token.Store or Yobit:
    https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/envion/#markets

    That really depends on the token. Imho it's not foolish to sell something on where you can literally lose the whole investment, not just 95%. But generally yeah, markets seen little bit brighter now.
    well envion lost great value in price from its ICO price
    some people bought envion after ICO when price down
    still no news about envion next step they are so quite right now and have no idea what will be their next plan
    price going down day by day. volume is almost nothing

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    September 04, 2018, 05:39:59 AM
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    Quote from: Cangkeman Wae on September 03, 2018, 02:29:20 PM
    Quote from: Roidz92 on September 03, 2018, 12:32:13 PM
    what about people that want to sell Envion tokens? I mean, for the ones that accept the loss, someone can help them to sell their tokens? How they should move now that there are no opened markets?

    Market conditions are red, I think selling coins and tokens that have a chance to zero is a better thing, and Envion is a token that is most likely to be worthless, sell EVN now before zero or deleted from the markets.

    well thanks so much for the suggestion, but i asked for somewhere to sell Cheesy
    I mean, HitBtc delisted ENV token, and probably it was the only one exchanger to trade env, am i wrong? where else can we sell our tokens?
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