Sorry but I don't understand. If this project is dead why to wait until price fells to 10 cents? Will you buy? Why? What for?
If this is a scam and court cases will take years and we all know this is possible,  token price will hit the ground and finally will be worth nothing.

I thought to buy more when the price will bottom but each day I'm less convinced that this is a good investment. I like risk and I know the possible gains but lately 70% of ICO's scammed investors. When we were in the bull market and we profited insanely from other projects few missed investments was no big deal. Today we are already the 5th month in bear market, prices are slaughtered and almost all ICO's scam people at some point. Countless delays and roadmap postpone, no communication after funding, this is today's reality in the ICO market. From my last 4 ICO's only 2 continue much below the initial price and two others scammed totally.

there are still a lot of good projects. I did not invest in Envion, but I worked in a bounty campaign. for this I follow this project. I believe that Envion is a scam.

All tokens purchased on exchanges are on a blockchain guaranteed by Envion, not HitBTC or anybody else and definitely not the founders lol... Envion is going to have a HUGE liability suit against them from various authorities and the exchanges EVN2 will b

I am completely behind the CEO and I hope he can get this fixed and get rid of the scamming founders.

- The ICO raised 100 million USD.
- The founders then created 100 million tokens (as agreed) and started distributing them to the holders (verified Id's etc)
- Next, the founders created 20 million "free tokens" and gave those to themselves. Instead of asking the CEO for parts of the 100 million USD to pay stuff, they just created 20 million tokens with 1 mouse click, without written permission of the board and the auditor. There is no verified track record of where these tokens go and who owns the wallets or who bought those cheap counterfeit tokens on exchanges.
- As a result, a board member and even the company auditor left the company.
- The founders have very shady explanations for these free tokens, like "bounty payments" and "the tokens will be burned" (wtf?) and "it was clear from the beginning, I announced this at least 100 times in the TELEGRAM group." Like WTF does your CEO and auditor is supposed to follow your telegram group hundreds of messages daily? You don't need written approval from the board to do that?
- Also, the founders own the social media channels, so they can manipulate the holders easily
- The CEO off course completely disagrees with all of that, and the founders now want him out so they are in the clear and also can get the 100 million dollars.

- The CEO has now gotten a new board member and a new certified auditor
- Because the free tokens are still in shady founder wallets, the CEO can not allow these scammy founders to own 20% of his company in criminal ways, get dividends etc.
- So the CEO decides to not use the EVN token (for paying the dividens) and give the holders that signed up for the ICO new EVN2 tokens that are not tampered with and that the scammy founders have no possession of. This would also clear him from criminal charges by the authorities for tampering with shares and printing free money.
- Now everybody that bought EVN tokens on Exchanges is mad. But that does not matter: Envion has no obligation to those people, no KYC, ... nothing. Those buyers where just stupid to buy cheap HitBTC tokens of a project that did not even start yet.
- CEO looks legitimate, I hope he can pull this off

Lol. Are you serious?

This statement alone is just sooo wrong in many ways..

"Now everybody that bought EVN tokens on Exchanges is mad. But that does not matter: Envion has no obligation to those people, no KYC, ... nothing. Those buyers where just stupid to buy cheap HitBTC tokens of a project that did not even start yet'

But hey, we all have to wait for the truth anyway.

Even by looking at the facial expression and body language of Woestmann one can tell he is a stone cold liar

I bought 2k EVN back in the ICO.  I should laugh at myself.  Oh well.  I invested in a few other ICOs that are chugging along quite nicely.  No point in selling my coins for a 90% loss now.  Just gonna hold the bag and ride the roller coaster to the end.
One ICO banked majorly and covered my investments in everything, actually 

Feeling sad about your big loss. I don't think so you should sell your envion tokens at this cheap value.
Best option is  hold 2k Envion tokens than sell out at very low price. Take risk create chances.
They might be on track in future after solve their illegal tokens issue. 

I am buyer who is pass KYC and also buy multiple times later more on HitBTC until this happened. So this is not simple and same situation for everyone.

Okay, let me put my 5 cents here.

There are two principles that any True Investor obviously follows:
1) Protect the investment as much as possible.
2) Multiply the investment at every opportunity.

And if you spread FUD about the project you invested in, you are:
1) Passerby - not a project participant.
2) Dumper - the bear who buys on the dips.
3) Idiot - who devaluates his investments with own hands.

So I wonder which category prevails in the Envion thread.