I do trust that investors get paid. But only I suspect that it does not go as agreed in the whitepaper.

I had read somewhere that they were going to mine all the hardware on location where the units were made. including the miners where the units still had to be built  what not placed at the moment at solar parks.

What I suspect is that envion uses the mining profits from mining to buy their own tokens back. As long as we do not provide information about how much equipment is mine, we do not know what is being earned and that money is being bought.

If they get the tokens, nobody knows anything about it. because some one who sells, gets nothing.

I would like to see an update  how manny miners are now in how many are in operation now.  
I would like to see a proof of the mining wallets where it is sent to.
Pictures and som numbers.

its not hard join facebook or twitter or medium to check about announces before asking in this group about that simple question if there was a announces last hours

That's the problem I think, there is not much of action on any communication channel.

Maybe read FAQ and telegram and don't ask random strangers for those facts if you want correct answers.

I see few valid points here. This is just impossible for us to track their progress and nobody knows if they don't mine on this equipment already as you say. I don't know how this is regulated but if dividends will be paid to token holders then this is like you own a part of this company value in your tokens. Which makes you a shareholder, I think.

Anyone who buys now or lower will be the big winners. Or if u r unsure then wait until update then decide. Until dividends r paid price will likely stay lowish. If I were in your position ie new buyer, I would buy slowly over the next few days & wknd.

Savedroid and envion wasn't paying bounty hunters because kyc isn't over yet. After 4 months, it is not fooling anybody.

It seems, like savedroid envion is a scam too. And but they are trying to stall as long as they can.

The difference in contacting with investors before and after ICO is like night and day.

I just found a great article on Medium about "3 critical stages in ICO". Every team or startup running an ICO should read this article. There are many valid and important points which match exactly successful and not successful ICO's? The main point is growing and supporting community but author explains that this could be only achieved with constant communication before and after ICO.

Envion team if you really want to succeed I advise you to read this article.

https://medium.com/@icosuccess/the-3-critical-stages-of-marketing-an-ico-89bd0caa84d4

Yes, most of all Savedroid is scam. But their ICO ended later than the Envion ICO. So I hope Envion is really making some audit, and will pay our rewards.

i bought all my tokens at ico price of $1.. but with actual price of 0.4-0.5.. i actually don't feel i lose because i know that the 100.000.000usd raised at ico must be covered and we will have our 100.000.000 value on hardware for mining... i just feel envy for some buying at actual price.. but also mean the one selling it had to bought at 1 at ico