You didn't read my post carefully enough, and no one deserves anything in this world, it's only a matter of circumstance and opportunity.

 
I noticed that, and already knew that. But, i'm on the fringe of the old systems requirements. Yes, and that was a fair time-gate. No, i can't do 1000 merit in 3 years, and very few can. There are specific boards and threads were people are more likely to merit. By merely posting where you want to post on these forums, you're hurting your chances to acquire merit. Am i going to go out of my way to collect merit from the sources that give it? Fuck no. I'm not here to farm kudo points from other users, as many of you do who defend the system. This isn't a video-game, this is forum.

So lets break this down in elementary terms; the majority of the highest ranked BTT members dwell only in BTC sections, so therefore more likely to merit in those locations to where they are biased and most recognized within. Again, why should anyone feel the need to milk the tits of these members, again for kudos? Worthless system.

"Tons of users" is subjective. How many tons out of how many total users? The amount of merit given on a daily basis will be drastically decreased years from now, due to the replenishment rates. While you have some justification here, you need to >farm< this out in specific forum boards, is that really constructive to the system if you're going for the carrot on the string? Not really, it actually diminishes the principals behind this entire forum, freedom. The new system is a hierarchy, a structure based on bullshit to filter all the new scammy accounts.


Not sure where these unfounded and ignorant sentences are coming from, you clearly have not done any research into my profile, and failed to understand my previous post. You refute and defend the system all you want, it doesn't make your contributions to BTT any more significant than mine. And from your profile posts, it's pretty evident your contributions amount to nothing, just basic support and the occasional constructive posts that are far and few. I'm confused why you have so much merit for those elementary school posts? maybe you're milking the right tits

By people merely complaining about the system, does not immediately invalidate their opinion. Instead of trying to understand what people are talking about, you immediately brush it off because the system fits your ego. You're obviously content with the awards, for your interactions, in the threads, that suite your experiences. Ultimately, you feel benefited and above other people by having something and understanding something better than most, prestige of merit by being in the right places at the right times. There are reasons behind every action, and every action taken in this world, by anyone, is a selfish one.

I'm glad you noticed that. So, you don't actually need any merit since you can post and have a discussion regardless of your rank, right?

Because the altcoin board is a shitshow. 90% of the threads are either shitcoin ANN threads, bounties or redundant and useless discussions which easily turn into Spam Mega Threads. It's been a few months since I visited the altcoin board for the last time.

"If we sum up all the user accounts with last activity within this year from Jr.Member to Legendary + Copper members, we get 90993 users". 90993 users out of 2 million registered accounts. If we remove all the Jr. Members and Members spammers who only care about doing bounties, there are only 25544 active users. From DdmrDdmr's merit dashboard, 312 users already received at least 100 merits.

Yes, I did check your post history. Congratulations on your work of shilling/working on shitcoins who are nothing more than a money-grab scheme or doesn't have any real world utility. I hope you enjoyed the 3% of your now dead "Nevra" shitcoin.

P.S: I actually received "227 merit 164 times, from 91 profiles" - according to BPIP; A good number of tits indeed.

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Sources:

https://bt.irlbtc.com/view/4901670.0
https://public.tableau.com/profile/ddmrddmr/vizhome/BitcointalkMeritDashboard/GlobalSummary#!/

I think you're going at this the wrong way: you're mainly posting in Altcoin discussion, and if you like that, that's great! But those boards suffer from massive spam, which means your posts don't get noticed much, even though you don't look like a spammer to me.
Now, If Merit and other measures could reduce the spam, the altcoin boards could become quality boards again instead of Spam Megathreads, and many good posts will get noticed again.
Unfortunately, that won't happen overnight. I don't know if you do it already, but you can help clean up the forum by clicking "Report to moderator" on bad posts. Get them deleted or banned!

You make it sound as if it is a bad thing to mainly use Bitcoin sections on a Bitcoin forum.

The Merit system isn't perfect, but it's the best we have now. In an ideal world, it wouldn't be necessary.
Long term, I'm hoping you too would appreciate a cleaner forum with higher post quality.

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Aren't all altcoins, ICOs and Forkcoins money-grab schemes? I don't think Merit is supposed to stop that, otherwise it would be much easier to just close all altcoin boards. And I do think tk808's posts are much better than the spammers for which Merit was introduced, which is why I merited him.

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It depends how you look at it. When it comes to Rank you're right, a 250 Merit airdrop beats your 177 Merit. But when it comes to contribution and recognition on the forum, earning Merits the hard way makes your posts look much better. And if you keep this up, you'll pass 250 in a few months.

I still do not quite have a handle on merit points and such. I get their usefulness and value and that they are a relatively recent addition to the forum - implemented to combat spam which would render these forums virtually useless and impossible to navigate without the merit system. Having been in other forums overrun with spam, I have no problem believing that some implementation of merit was obviously necessary here to avoid that same fate.

As a newbie to Bitcointalk, I feel slightly disadvantaged at coming in after the merit system was implemented rather than before, but that is just my own bad luck and poor timing. But begging for merit points and pointing out the 'unfairness' of how the current merit system negatively impacts newbies is kind of like buying Bitcoin now at ~$6500 and then claiming it is unfair that some people were able to get Bitcoin at 30¢ back in the year 20-whatever.

Those who are established forum members with high ranks achieved that status by being early adopters with a passion or strong interest in the technology and philosophy behind cryptocurrency.  Whether fueled by flaunting their early adoption gains or their superior knowledge of the system's inner workings or just a desire to help other people understand it all better - they constructively contribute to the discussion.  Those who are crying about the merit bias against newbies are those johnny-come-lately's who are really only in this to make a buck.

I was motivated to buy my first Bitcoin to try to make a buck. I like to browse this forum for answers to questions that I have - which results in hours and hours of passively reading (or lurking) - but often weeks or more at a time without actively posting. With limited financial resources, I am still spending most of my crypto time bouncing around on different faucets and so a good chunk of my time here is spent in the "Micro Earnings" threads.  Probably not the best strategy for leveling up... but it's my choice of how to spend my limited time. My point is this - rather than whine about the unfairness of the system, I am trying to educate myself on the system. It's not about skyrocketing rank so to get a bigger bundle of sticks as soon as possible. It's about slowly learning how to gather up that bigger bundle of sticks and make good use of them.

What's the difference between Hero and Legendary that makes this such a big deal? Sure Legendary is not easy to earn but it was already a gimmick/novelty rank even before merits, given the random activity and (as far as I know) no extra forum privileges or shitposting earnings compared to Hero.

I was wondering for a long time that was I the only one have that concept about "quality" in mind. According to my observation, most of the merits are given in Meta board. Those merit-received posts only meet "constructive" criteria and I don't see many really "high quality" ones. Sometimes, to match the "constructive" criteria, people deliberately lengthen posts & topics. This confuses their readers.

I'm not a regular visitor of Development & Technical or Project Development and I think either are merit sources. Btw, Bitcoin Discussion is becoming as trashy as Altcoin Discussion so we shouldn't expect from it. Serious Discussion should be instead.

I've been thinking about this, I didn't really want to make a new thread about it, but commenting on a post already discussing about merit in detail is fine

The merit system introduced into the forum is good and lovely and my thoughts is there could be a time where merit would translate to a BTT token and could be withdrawable as crypto coin, and if that happens then those that thought that writing just a spam post on the forum is good would then start struggling to earn token or buy with their BTC.

This is crypto community and a top one at that... Just my thoughts though, I may be wrong.

It is great that you managed to rank up since the introduction
of the merit system. However, I´m not sure if this is really a viable
recommendation for Branko´s problem.

Just take a look at the merit that you have received in the last 120 days:

I have bolded every merit that was awarded for a post that was somehow related to the
merit system or its ramifications.

Does anyone notice a pattern here?!

To sum up, you have earned exactly a single merit for a post that was not somehow related to the
merit system in the last 4 months. And you, athanz88, are definitely one of the better posters on Bitcointalk.
If this is the result of 4 months of posting activity for a good poster, then the merit system is
definitely an utter failure   not working as intended.

We don´t really need Branko (or any other user) to start making tons of posts in the Meta subforum
just for the purpose of gaining merit in order to rank up. It is a well-known fact that
merits are awarded quite freely in the Meta subforum. It is much harder to earn merit in other parts of the forum,
which is kind of sad. This leads to hilarious results like the fact that a user like TMAN, who constantly
berates newbies in the Meta subforum, has earned more merit than
guys like gmaxwell, HeRetiK or DannyHamilton.

One of the possible solutions to improve the merit system would be the complete
removal of the ability to award or receive merit in the Meta subforum at all.

@Branko and @Samarkand

If you guys want to bash me about my merit that is received in Meta Section, then it is okay for me, i get it with my style and my work, so i hope you guys dont mind it like this.Well, To make it clear too, there is nothing wrong in getting merits in meta section. The main purpose of merit is to make a quality post, and i am 100% believe that you 2 guys only know quality as it is a "good" or even "great" post, well you are wrong. In a forum (note this is a forum, okay?) besides a "good" or "great" content, you need the engagement and other things. Whats the point of making a good post if you are posting in a mega-thread, or if you dont even try to talk to other members?

And please read this link https://bt.irlbtc.com/view/3093768.0, this is and old statistics, but you know, meta is not the only section that is getting merits a lot. You guys should stop talking merits received in meta section is not well deserved without a data. You didnt received merits in your favorite section doesnt mean people dont get merits there, or the fault is at other section. The demography is different so if you want to blame then blame people in your section that doesnt want to give you guys merit.

O ya, have you 2 ever made a post like this link i am talking about? I bet you have because you re getting merit, but really you cant compare things like that. You re looking at your neighborhood's grass and comparing them while the types of the grass you have is different, until judgement time come you still cant make an on point comparison.

You totally misunderstood the point Branko and Samarkand were trying to make: namely, that there is a problem with the merit system itself if the most merited posts are on the subject of merit.

I've also received most of my merits from posts here on meta despite that they constitute a small fraction of my post history and just as with Branko, I find this somewhat disappointing. Unlike Branko, I don't care all that much, since my only motivation for achieving a higher rank is to finally be able to wear my favorite avatar, a thumbnail of Banksy's StarWarsPulpFiction.