KnC Miner's grade needs to be re-evaluated. They no longer refund and have indeed horrendous problems with their latest gen. Not to mention they've failed to meet every single shipping deadline, from the first gen to addon cards to latest gen.

They're hardly worthy of C. Do the right thing and same some newbies from being scammed

IMO these trust threads are are a great idea. We just need more updates.
Maybe you should ask someone else to manage it, just like it was done in the signature campaign overview thread.

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nice format

rockminer and btcgarden should be on the list

I agree it's a good idea to move towards a more mathematical system althpugh I'm not sure about size and ethics being variables.

What exactly is size and what kind of metric will you use for ethics?

New format is ready, ratings are done, just finishing off some formatting. It currently smashes the post character limit and there isn't a way I can reduce it while conforming to BBCode so I've asked Theymos to take a look.

In the meantime, are there any other companies people want to see? These are the active companies...

ASICMiner
Bitfury
Bitmain
SpondooliesTech
RockMiner
Yiazo
OneStringMiner
Technobit
BTCGarden
BitMine
Lightning ASIC
KNC Miner
CoinTerra
HashFast
Black Arrow
AMT
VMC
BFL

and inactive companies (either barebones or not at all):

ASIC Runner
Avalon
Big Picture Mining
Drillbit
NonceTech
Starfire X
Redhash

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Huge improvement.

Although I would have to disagree that btcgarden has ethics or quality issues. I've heard very little complaints and communication has been top notch.

Also I don't think bitmain should be 10/10 for ethics because they have their own megamine (same size as KNC) and some questionable ethics like selling heavily used hardware.

It might be a good idea to have two separate ratings for ethics and superfarming because some might not see self mining as being unethical (as long as they use their own time and money as well as stay far below 51%)

Hi dogie.  Looks awesome!  The only possible glitch i see is with how the variables are weighed.  For instance, a company being small detracts as many points as a company not shipping miners.  Oh, and the forum software grocks the...

...tags, if that's useful.

Hi, i just meant replacing the _______________ (_ _ _ _ _) with

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(quote message to see).

Regarding company size, it's simply a suggestion on my part.  If you feel size translates into trustworthiness, i have no evidence that it doesn't, but to me it seems to penalize small chip integrators.  Again, I defer to your opinion, I'm really glad you're maintaining this thread.  If I haven't thanked you before, thanks

This new guide looks really good.  I love the composite scores.  that makes it really easy for people.

Black Arrow

Communication 4/10
Ethics 5/10



censoring information, which they do here and on their forum, should take that communications rating down.  they go through their self-moderated thread and delete information that may reflect poorly on them all the time and have been doing it for as long as I can remember.

Ethics?  from what I can see they have none.  an endless series of missed delivery dates, half truths if not outright lies, screwing people they refunded in bitcoin by refunding bitcoin originally sent after price had severely tumbled, a broken promise on price matching the competition at time of shipping(which is huge), a lack of fiat refunds- and more.  

I am unfortunately one of their pre-order customers and I've been watching this all along.  what is most glaringly missing from their operation, aside from the ability to effectively develop mining equipment, IMO, is ethics.  they're attempting to hide behind a TOS that seemingly conflicts with Hong Kong law, their answers, when/if you can get them, on support and via e-mail are not answers at all in many cases but further excuses, and we are seeing cases now where people have requested refunds and their miners are being shipped out anyhow.  their resellers are also looking to me to be getting desperate as they claim they are not getting refunds from BA either and are therefore being forced to refund out of pocket, which is leading to their attempting to deny refunds and ship to people that have requested refunds also, which will undoubtedly lead to lawsuits and further actions against them also.

these people have created a total nightmare for just about everyone that has chosen to do business with them on this latest round of product.

edit:  I'm not seeking in any way to debate with you Dogie.  this guide is a great thing for people done, from what I can tell, on your own time to attempt to help others.  please make your own decision on whether or not these things are relevant to your rating system.  you know more about what you're trying to do in the aggregate than I do, I think.