For all the doubts that you have seeing a crooked path ask Jesus, by reading him how can you make them straight.

Jesus had said that there were a human tradition and God tradition. Human tradition were rebelious.

Isaiah that profesised the coming of the Lamb of God:

1"What are your multiplied sacrifices to Me?" Says the LORD. "I have had enough of burnt offerings of rams And the fat of fed cattle; And I take no pleasure in the blood of bulls, lambs or goats.

That is not a God made tradition, but a man made tradition.

Samuel that made a king someone similiar to Jesus - Dawid, had said:

22Samuel said, "Has the LORD as much delight in burnt offerings and sacrifices As in obeying the voice of the LORD? Behold, to obey is better than sacrifice, And to heed than the fat of rams.

The Dawid himself:

16For You do not delight in sacrifice, otherwise I would give it; You are not pleased with burnt offering.

And finally Jesus had rebuke the Jews that they follow the man made traditions and God does not have delight in them. They made Moses obey them, because they were in constant rebelion towards God. God had a compromise.

Finally Jesus had said they are not the sons of Moses. If they would be the sons of Moses they would listen and obey him. They would not want sacrifices if they would obey him. They would not want stoning if they would be the God of Abraham and Jacob and Dawid and Jesus.

Do not forget a Moses was a murderer. Thats not a coincidence that he took lightly a murder. God want to show us that sin breeds sin. We need to break the vicious cycle by repenting.

They would not have divorce as Jesus have said that they made Moses to agree to make their wicked law. THATS ALL A MAN THAT IS EVIL! Jesus have said that they had a wicked hard hearth if they do not see the evils of divorce.

Jesus have come to show the God is not evil. Its the man that desires it.

All God want you to sacrifice is your idols, your wickedness and obey him.  

*science alert* Psychology shows how human like to project unto others what they want. Its like if I like something that must be the God that is pleased. Or if I am a sinner I would pretend that goat is a sinner and by sacrificing it I will sacrifice my wickedness. Stupid? Yes. But human are often stupid lying creatures.

Jesus was send for the Biblical people to show how their paths are not 100% of God. They mix the good with the evil. He came to the lost people that could not say what is good and what is bad, because of their rebelious nature and their rebelious leaders - Pharisee.


Discovered morality? My ass https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43jgckjVubo It seems to be that this discovery is very hard to discover for a whole lot of people around the world.


I could say its cross-culturaly ignored. Unchanging - yeah I agree.

Im not sure if shaming practices in Japan you would not consider a torture. Or a taoist China killing children that are females, or breaking female baby legs to put them together again. Spartans, Mongols, Indians... were they all moral by our standards? Give me a break.... realy.... Ignorance is not a virtue. Just because you are not aware of the abuse of children by all the cultures around the world does not mean its not there. Just because you close your eyes does not mean the evil is not there.

But yes, moral values are universal - they are a God law. They were not made by religion. We could agree on that. But saying atheists are better than of christians because they are pure, is a nonfactual nonsense.

Children are the most abused group of people around the world. Ask catholic priests - they know best about it.

In the John revelation it is written:

"6But you have this to your credit: You hate the works of the Nicolaitans, which I also hate. "

Nicoloitans - Saint Nicolas, Claus at short ( a bishop of Antiochia) followers (does it ring something? Jingle Bells?). An origins of Catholic church. One of the practice of Nicolaitans was fucking little orphans. That was not considered sin.

People have evil in their hearth. Deal with it. And yes we have a lot of good in us. Its the purified God dna as to speak.

1. GOD gave man a mind so that man could do his own thinking, this includes moral judgments in line with the law which GOD wrote on the human heart. I think that there is no way that GOD would behave that way and the context of the child abuse is not relevant to the question of whether the child abuse is justified. Do not throw away reason along with GOD's law of nonviolence: a child learns from the actions of the parent, we are the children of GOD because of our moral compass which comes from GOD and is "written upon the heart", GOD would not act in a way that would nullify his own law.

2. Jesus never actually taught Jesus salvation, he told his closest followers "I am not our master". Whenever I point this out to you, you think that your interpretation of the Bible in other places can overcome the contradictory information. Did you ever address the facts and research directly and adequately? https://bt.irlbtc.com/view/1373864.msg20474735#msg20474735
You should not ignore the information on the evilbible site that calls out the evil in the OT, this book is so messed up but it takes an open mind to realize what has happened.
http://www.evilbible.com/do-not-ignore-the-old-testament/

3. Jesus factually taught that you need to love GOD and love thy neighbor as thyself. You replace the love for thy neighbor with the so-called Doctrine of Jesus Salvation? And how are YOU expecting to get to Heaven? I recommend that you immediately conduct a thorough read of all sites that I mentioned, I just showed that you are deliberately adulterating the factual teaching of Jesus bout loving GOD and neighbor as self.

1. Stop lifting your puny reason above God's reasoning.

2. Did I miss your reply to my https://bt.irlbtc.com/view/1373864.msg20478006#msg20478006 post?

3. Anybody who understands Jesus salvation and believes it, can't help but to love God. Did you miss my #1, above?

There was no adequate reply to these 3 points, just unsupported claims about the perfection of the Bible but that book is not fit for worship, I recommend that free-thinking people read Phoenix Journals instead and thereby determine that the Bible has been modified by the adversary, the one who rules this world.

God's words are more easily understood and better preserved in Phoenix Journals. Study of the Bible is not so easy because of the many modifications that were made. I think Phoenix Journals provide a superior record of The Word, for example by explaining that GOD does not torture innocent children.

The whole idea of "Jesus Salvation" is provably a story that was added to the Bible, I already referenced the research of Zuesse to prove this fact. You also need to consider other books to get the full picture, and keep the content-source problem in mind.

http://www.evilbible.com/evil-bible-home-page/murder-in-the-bible/

God himself commanded people to kill other people for various reasons. Some of them are pretty retarded reasons like killing a man because he was working on the sabbath. God himself told him that.

Now while the sons of Israel were in the wilderness, they found a man gathering wood on the Sabbath day. Those who found him gathering wood brought him to Moses and Aaron and to all the congregation; and they put him in custody because it had not been declared what should be done to him. Then the Lord said to Moses, “The man shall surely be put to death; all the congregation shall stone him with stones outside the camp.” So all the congregation brought him outside the camp and stoned him to death with stones, just as the Lord had commanded Moses. - Numbers 15: 32-36

This verse alone proves that God is not all knowing, not all good. Such a brutal death just because the man was gathering some wood. How does anyone read the bible and think, hmmm yea, this makes sense.

I like how you try to go around and avoid saying that your god is evil. ''Even God can't make people change their hearts in one second, it takes time.'' He surely can if he is all powerful and taking in consideration that he created basically everything instantly. I guess he can create a whole universe but can't change people hearts, makes sense. God cannot be pissed. God cannot be angry. God would have no human emotions. You religious people don't understand that. You describe him as all powerful, all knowing and then proceed to say he failed, he was angry, he was sad. Those concepts cannot apply to a god with those descriptions. What does god get angry about? He can change anything and he knows anything that will happen. Imagine I'm god and I know my mom will die in the next hour because a tree falls on her. I have the ability to change that. You are saying that God lets that happen and then gets angry, how does that make any sense? Your whole thing makes no sense and you can't see it.

''Leviticus 20:13New International Version (NIV)

13 “‘If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.''

God is also homophobic and retarded. He allowed people to be sexually attracted by other people of the same sex yet he punishes it with death? Wake up bro, your book is stupid.

''Yes homosexuals deserves punishment - they mock God'' Makes no sense since god allowed homosexuals to exist. You think they deserve to die because of that? You think people deserve to die because they are working on the sabbath? If you do you are just an evil person.

Then why take the bible seriously? If it has commands by god that force you to kill other people? That proves to me the bible is not inspired by a god, just humans and their ignorant minds back in the day. There is no point in believing anything it's said in the bible.