Yes, the retro gamers are an untapped resource. The desire to play is there, we are many, we are in our 30s-40s and if not rich, at least well-to-do and np financially to invest $100s in a hobby over 2 years if it is satisfying.

Games today are not to my taste. No soul. This I would play myself.


Yes, why not design a whole economic system that solely uses this currency? So that every character eats 1 XMR worth of resources per real-month? Would that not be the adoption? Virtual money, virtual adoption 

If XMR can be used in games, that is good.

I feel like I must be in a parallel universe or there is something I'm not reading correctly.

It is strange to me that the work on the game would cause people to somehow feel worse about XMR.  It's not like rpietila is the main dev working on any of the other dev team projects.  This is just a cherry on top of the sundae.  I mean, if they came out and said, "hey, we're going to drop the GUI wallet because we've got this new game coming out," that would be one thing.  But that isn't the case.

Don't be confused. The need for these people to publicly come here and claim that they're looking to sell their stash lies solely on the fact that they likely over bought something that they didn't really understand, and are now looking for any and all excuses to reduce the size of their stash or walk away forever, and they want someone to know. Or maybe I'm wrong, and they just don't understand the motivations that are in front of them, and have come to discuss the issue rather bluntly.

It's a healthy downturn, if you ask me, and these people need to vent their frustration somewhere so it might as well be here.

To anyone planning on selling at this point - I'm sorry the price couldn't go upwards to infinite levels, or never ever go down, for what that's worth to you in whatever place you're at right now.

I see the utility in the game as a fantastic opportunity to explore unique niches in cryptocurrencies. It makes sense as a niche, because video games have been played using points, or some other measurement system like wealth for decades. It seems like a natural evolution to me is all, and very likely the next niche that cryptocurrencies will move to collectively capitalize on. Specifically, if Doge showed anyone anything, it's that people are looking for entertainment in cryptocurrencies. Personally, I feel that was a frontier that has barely been touched even with Dogecoin.

As such, if I were to speculate, integrating a point or wealth system into games utilizing the unique aspects found only in cryptocurrencies would be an absolutely well-met idea. While I don't currently think it should be a prime focus for a core protocol development team, I can see the two separate development teams working concurrently to develop platforms in which the general public is already familiar with - in this case gaming.

Personally I don't feel that the general public is familiar at all with marriage on the blockchain, property deeds on the blockchain (bitnet?), even most forms of advanced encrypted anonymous messaging on the blockchain will likely fall on deaf ears, but perhaps introducing these potentially revolutionary concepts utilizing blockchain technology would be best introduced to them using a platform an easy 300+ million people are familiar with is gaming. By 'holding the teddy bear', these new concepts have, for the first time, the ability to be introduced in not only a non-confrontational way, but a friendly (and sometimes free and trustless) way.

I'm excited, and speculate a long-term uptrend is inevitable, provided Risto can tell a good enough story

add: I can see many parallels in the evolution of cryptocurrencies to the evolution of operating systems. Even operating systems on Tandy had disney games available, and I think it did an absolutely fantastic job at introducing the general public to computer usage in general. Imagine if all of your usage of the computer revolved around programming it, writing messages, or keeping track of documents, and no playing games at all. No minesweeper, solitaire, none of that. Sure, people would have gotten involved eventually regardless, but it's undeniable that games assisted the public in adopting operating systems/computers.

Were games the primary focus of OS developers? Not likely. Do OS developers constantly work with game developers to have their software work in unison? Damn right they do - MS worked with ubisoft to limit their games from 60 fps to 30 fps not so long ago.

Would I sell stock in Apple because someone made a game for use with its operating system? Personally, not likely. But to each his own.

Dnaleor is working on this. He has been advocating monero on the darknet forums.

Exactly.
The game has no negative effect on the coin. Any coin will hugely benefit from such project.
It will suck coins from the exchanges.

Game creates value to Monero community since this is one of the first real use for the coin. When the game is opened for the public, it is 100 % sure that it will create new users for Monero.

The anonymity is great advantage and it creates markets for Monero no other coin can have. It doesn't mean Monero should only focus on this feature.

The bottom line is the same as whap said: it is better to have the game than not to have it.

Gambling would be a great idea, I agree. One benefit to the game that I don't see with dice is that with the game, it can be a type of faucet. If it's a faucet, maybe it will cause people to want to play the dice game? I think the possibilities are endless once people get the money on their computer, maybe even buy more?


You are right. Initially, I don't think Risto is going to do anything like this. I don't know if he will ever. But, the ability to have the decentralized exchanges for gold/XMR within the game could be implemented in a way that more transactions are made. Or, just knowing that there's someone out there with a few extra XMR to send right back to poloniex address from the main game address will probably at least create some kind of mixin value for the rest of the chain.

I'd like to hear Risto's thoughts, or a developers thoughts on this. I don't think it'll be at the same level as Huntercoin where every transaction is a movement on the game, but more XMR in the hands of more people can definitely be a good way to make at least one more transaction on the blockchain, when originally there would have been none.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that if we only offer to people who want this for "useing anon currency to buy illegal stuff and kick the contoll freaks in the ass", then everyone looking at the blockchain knows that. So, with a game, I think of it like doping in a transistor - maybe this will be the spark that sets this off?

I am in the crypto world first-and-foremost for sportsbetting, second maybe poker. It would be quite simple to launch an XMR sportsbook. I've already talked to some of the trustworthy bitcoin books about cost to host and run one for XMR. I encourage someone to launch cryptonote sports betting or poker before I do!

On that note, I think a HUGE UNTAPPED potential for crypto some of you guys are missing is in the gaming space. That's why we've seen several pump and dump "Starcraft Gold" type coins already, but no serious efforts.

It's fun, and also an excellent case study for how to build services around XMR.

I applaud Risto for thinking outside the box and putting his money where his mouth is.

I'll also echo the sentiment that there seem to be a lot of old 80's/90's Civ/Turn based or RTS Strategy, or RPG gamers looking for something crypto-related. I'll be all over it, for one.

Just as a reference, for anyone that's curious about plans for the gaming industry here's a pretty decent article:

Here's where it starts: http://www.cyberciti.biz/linux-news/why-valve-wants-to-port-2500-games-on-linux/

And now just this year, progress: http://www.zdnet.com/valve-announces-over-more-than-a-dozen-linux-powered-steam-gaming-boxes-7000024900/

Just after that: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTU5OTQ

I see a lot of former and on the edge windows users becoming extremely familiar with open source software over the next few years. I see this possibly also introducing them to cryptocurrencies, if we can leverage ourselves into the right position for when companies like valve move even further with these types of initiatives. I'm sure Valve is not the only huge name gaming company working on this.