Not completely. It deliberately includes some extra coins in the transaction and then sends them back as change. You can't tell which outputs go to the recipient, so you can't identify the amount. Some sort of range or candidates can be inferred.


Neither A nor C address tracing at all. Every connection in the blockchain is still 100% visible.

Read what Greg Maxwell and Blockstream has written about transaction metadata, since they invented the thing. CT doesn't solve it.


As I said they are not comparable. Neither is more anonymous than the other in any objective mathematical sense. You are entitled to your opinion as to qualitative superiority of course.

Yes, I am probably dumb but please explain in laymen's terms how Bitshares 2.0 transactions are traceable.

Bitshares has been one of the most innovative developments in the Cryptocoin world that actually had a public release. Don't dis it.  

https://bitshares.org/technology/

You may actually not know but same argument is used by the dash/darkcoin side, just because people don't care to trace it don't make it anonymous, it also don't fool mathematicians and cryptographers that see right through the snake oil.

I have nothing against ppl who hold or trade these coins just to profit, if you make more money congratulations to you. I just think crypto is too small and uninteresting (apart from few coins like Monero) to bother holding and speculating the long term future.

You make some good points that there is no one silver bullet feature. I think few if any would disagree with you on that. Coins and projects each have to find their own way and deliver value to users. Thank you for pointing out the new CT feature in Bitshares, I don't think I was aware of it.

Bitshares may be marginally less of a scheme/scam than every other altcoin out there but still fails spectacularly on certain tests of mining fairness.  As well, it's likely a lot of hard work went into it.  
  
That doesn't matter.  The free market and reality don't care that your distribution was only a little unfair, or how much work you put into it.  
  
If it wasn't a clean PoW mining situation from Genesis to present with no pre-sales, burns, 1:1 exchanges, swaps, hops, chops, or stops then it doesn't matter.  
  
n-person game theory doesn't give a shit, and you will not reach critical mass necessary to achieve exit velocity from the altcoin scene into the mainstream.  If you have no chance of reaching exit velocity you are peddling and playing a sell-to-the-greater-fool game where you stand a dangerous chance of being the greatest fool.  
  
As well the fact that (as the developers have pointed out) the technical features will fall short of Monero soon (and debatable fall short now) only ensures it's eventual collapse.  Do you know how finely honed of a bullshit detector I have after all these years immersing myself in it?  
  
Monero isn't perfect, but it passes the "launch fairness test" and is light years ahead of anything else here on the altcoin scene, and that includes Ethereum and Bitshares.  
  
If you can make money on bitshares, I don't fault you.  Just don't try to pretend you're not playing a greater fool game.  
  
And for the record, I drank my signature drink: a Vanilla Latte with two pumps of vanilla syrup and an extra shot of expresso.

You are right there are a lot of different arms of the Monero ecosystem and different on-ramps for development. We also have people making crowdfunding pitches. Right now that is somewhat centralized in the sense that it goes through a forum (though still decentralized in the sense that any developers and sponsors are eligible), but who knows in time that can perhaps be done in a more decentralized manner too.

In a lot of ways I feel that the sustainability of a project and its associated community matters more than it's current feature set. We all know every viable coin will be quite different in five years than today. Arguing about today's feature set and implementation is silly.

Funny you say that, Monero has not been around for 2 years.  I think you stopped by for a quick afternoon Shill.

No, there are certain qualities and constraints that define a fairly launched coin that can survive an initially worthless magic-token n-person pirate game where the tokens only have value if each successive player agrees they have value and convinces more to join the game.  
  
A pre-sale of any type causes the chances of success to plummet to abysmal levels.  
  
I promise you, if Monero had any sort of presale or IPO I would not be here, and I would be still backing Bitcoin, which I most certainly missed the boat on.

Thanks for coming out bud.