The point of my post was that water is not flat. Since water is not flat, water doesn't have anything to do with flat earth in the ways these FE people say. The simple evidence is the waves in the sea.

The only foil in this thread is on your head.

They will claim that you drugged them and they are really in a holding cell in a bunker under Hollywood.

Right! You can't make anybody believe anything that he doesn't want to. Only in great pain or great joy will someone be forced to drop his irrational opinions, and start to look for reality.

What if... In fact... it's a square cube?

Or did the church already tell us that?

Cardboard blueprint for making a cube: https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/02/c0/2a/02c02a1b942b65b59e61d4296a637e0f.jpg

https://images.encyclopediadramatica.rs/thumb/7/76/Bahdumtish2.png/300px-Bahdumtish2.png

Oh, don't give up so easily. I understand you have anger at the deception, but what good does it do to isolate yourself from those you may reach yet?

Unignore those assheads. Let them speak.

Yes I can because this is not an opinion or a different point of view, we are not talking about politics. This is a known fact, known for thousands of years actually that the earth is spherical and not flat so yes anyone who says that the earth is flat is retarded.

Science is the result of using the scientific method to arrive at the truth. It starts with a testable hypothesis, then that hypothesis gets tested until it fails. The tests are not with words and philosophy, they are with experiments that have quantitative outcomes. The fallibility of humans in this situation is the equivalent of a single trader trying to insert a false trade into the bitcoin block. The community of scientists, and more importantly, the documented results from multiple independent tests, do not let the erroneous claims last very long. On that basis surely you must see how colossally impossible it would be for example the thousands of NASA employees to be in on "the secret" and duping you all about the curvature of the earth.

Apply Occam's razor. The more likely explanation is that people who believe in flat earth do not understand the reasoning behind the scientific conclusions and so reject them out of hand. Or perhaps their personal identity is wrapped up in a particular belief system and it is too painful to confront any challenges. We are all subject to that behavior on some topics. But if they had concrete evidence other than belief they would be able to share with others who could then independently verify their conclusions. If they were applying the scientific method.

The mistake many laypeople make is assuming that scientists come to their conclusions by consensus in the way common language uses that word. That is not true, they come to their conclusions by tests. When the media says "97% of climatologists believe in human driven climate change" that doesn't mean that 97% just one day said "hey that sounds good, Dr. Joe Blow did a cool study, I think I'll agree with it because it fits my liberal agenda and it'll get me those juicy gov't grants", what it means is that 97% of the people who do the research have performed scientific experiments where they then reach the conclusion that their particular experiment supports it. In other words, scientists LIVE to prove other scientists wrong. It is how they make their legacy and further human knowledge.

Humans are very good at pattern matching, we see connections where sometimes there aren't. It is a good trait. But to be knowledge we can trust those connections must be verified by many others, not just the observation of the connection but the tested reasons explaining those observations. If you wish to prove the earth is flat you will have to design an experiment to test your hypothesis that other people can repeat without your involvement. If they come to the same conclusions as you then you might be on to something. Or do it the other direction, look at the historical experiments that have led us to determination that the earth is a spheroid and repeat them yourself. If you come to different conclusions then publish.

Sometimes it isn't the science at fault the its the way the modeling is done and interpreted that ends up getting incorrectly analysed.
If you watch this guys testimony to congress on climate change you will see the politics involved try to hold sway over common sense.

Skip first 10 mins its a long un.! ... (im just thinking of your attention span)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cssne9Q5KM