Wow, just wow!

Every engineer's wet dream.

Hope so. With fiat inflation it feels more like we are back at about $22K-23K now late 2020.  

Dunno why, but I'm not impressed.   

A boat factory or a spaceship factory similar to that concept would be more appealing.   

Bitcoin going to be playing the tease for the next few days then?

That's what we do here.  Opinions.

Some opinions are more fleshed out than others, and some opinions are just vague and conclusory - which sometimes might be acceptable (or at least, adding value) if the underlying facts are already known.

Some topics have either complex facts or controverted facts - which might require some level of additional fleshing out as a kind of courtesy... As we already touched upon, the amount of your courtesy is within your discretion... and understandably, the extent to which you allow your emotions to come through may or may not be under your complete abilities to control.. and surely some peeps will strategically employ emotions - which can also be effective to present or rebut a topic.


No need to repeat.  Each of us have already made our points regarding this angle.



It seems to me that even if some members might not say anything, most likely an overwhelming majority would prefer that topics relate to bitcoin - of course, there is tolerance for a variety of off-topics, especially even regular members will be interested in what some members have to say about current topics of the day.. for the most part, I attempt to minimize my posts on those topics, but I can see how some members will feel inclined to post about some current topics of the day.. and surely in some sense all topics will have some relationship to bitcoin... but I doubt that there are needs to really argue about how much one topic might relate to bitcoin or another because some topics are just more obviously related to bitcoin than others, and no needs to belabor attempts at arguing a connection when the connection might be tangential at best.


Sure.. we can swear at each other.. no problem...... Feels better when it is not forced, though.. #justsaying... also not very effective if overdone, either.

Think about ur lil selfie for a second?  Perhaps your schedule is not exactly under your control, but do you really consider that there is some kind of effectiveness in coming in for short bursts of guns ablazing? and maybe you last a week or two and then you seem to even wear out ur own lil selfie with the level of your purposeful intentionality.    I really do not care that much.. I mean.. I am mostly just responding because you directed your comment at me.  You do you.. and whatever, let's let the chips fall where-ever they will.  Maybe you are purposefully coming out with your level and particular type of annoyances because you are striving to provide a kind of memorable and unique signature.. and yeah.. no problem with that, either.

And by the way, the points that Torque provides in this post might partially be somewhat explanatory of your own erratic behaviors, Cryptotourist.. I don't completely agree with all of Torque's points, but he still captures the  idea that some accounts and posts seem to be ONLY striving to either provide misinformation or to distract our abilities to actually have meaningful discussions because those accounts are just spouting out a bunch of irrelevant nonsense and even just blatant and gratuitous personal attacks... which may well be part of what you have been up to in recent times, Cryptotourist... so don't even act like you are on the side of "good" in whatever non-contributory angles you have been recently taking in this spurt of posts and even in your previous couple of times that you came into the thread to make some purported "contributions" to the talk-of-the-day in this thread.

Probably a human cannot get that close without locking out the equipment.

You already know the expession, Richy...... no?

"bitcoin is for friends and enemies."

In other words, bitcoiners are going to come from all walks of life and likely be involved in all kinds of activities, and hold a very large variety of opinions... and even change their minds from time to time. 

In other words, the extent to which any person might become a policy maker because they might want to build certain areas of government, or they might want to destroy government in various ways, with the passage of time more and more of these people are going to hold some bitcoin, and some of them are going to start to hold shit tons of bitcoin, too.

Seems to me that bitcoin likely helps to make government more responsive and more responsible because it takes some aspects of their abusive behaviors (likely some of the governments/officials do not even realize that they are doing it), but that is their abuse of the money, the ways they attempt to control it, and the ways that they distribute it. 

Personally, I have difficult times to imagine a world of complete disappearance of governments - or even to project that the world is going to completely move into various forms of voluntarism..  Even with the proliferation of bitcoin and perhaps some of the resolution of the sound money abuses of governments, there are still ways that they can attempt to be abusive because people still want and need physical items.. in spite of all the bullshit about metaverse being the whole future world.. that sounds like bullshit.. we are still going to want to live in dwellings and eat actual food and have sex with actual people  (including wanting to move from place to place - travel and socialize and learn about other people  besides through the internet) in spite of some of the perversions that attempt to cause us to believe that we do not need/want these kinds of goods, services and meatspace interactions. 


You really seem to love getting stuck on narrow, and ill-thought-out explanations for whatever seems to be happening in bitcoin price dynamics at any given time.  I will admit that I have seen a few decent explanation from you, but many of them really love to incorporate some kind of lame conspiracy angle that seems to want to emphasize bitcoin as if it were some kind of lame-ass passing fad... .. All your time in bitcoin, and you ongoingly tend to miss some of the more fundamental bullish aspects of bitcoin, no?

Ok… I will bite.. I will address some of your points.

Regarding Terra buying up all the bitcoin, of course, that one causal explanation is narrow, even if they may well be buying bitcoin, anyone who has been in bitcoin for any length of time should have some ideas that these kinds of one-causal explanations are ONLY telling part of the story.. regarding current BTC price dynamics… in the Uppity direction

Regarding Terra buying $10 billion in bitcoin, that seems to be something that folks are latching upon, and that $10 billion seems to be a long term goal of that particular shitcoin, so I think that we should take with a grain of salt what any shitcoin is saying that they are doing.. whether they do it or not is not going to be clear.

Regarding what is going to happen next:  of course, the punchline is that bitcoin is going up forever OgNasty including the billionaires buying it, even if there may well be some short term ups and down that cause their buying it to take a few years, 10 years, 20 years or more, and in the end, billionaires, companies, countries, rich peeps and the general 7 billion peeps of the world are buying too… so on a personal level the main thing to do is to ABB.. always be buying.. unless you have already reached overallocation into BTC levels.. If you have reached overallocation, then you have a lot more options regarding what to do… so perhaps the punchline would be ABB until you are overallocated into BTC, and maybe not Michael Saylor psycho levels of overallocation, yet hopefully you can personally tailor the level of your overallocation into BTC?

Edit: By the way, I did have a better draft of the above post that I had posted. and for some reason it did not post and I had to rewrite the bottom portion.. but I did not have enough patience to spend as much time on the second draft.