You going to continue to promote that inferior shit here?   

You cannot help ur lil selfie?


That sounds reeeeeeeeeaaaaaaalllllllllyyyyyy safe.













NOT!!!!!

 


Oh my  !!!!!   

A reversal??

I did not have that on my BINGO card nor did I think about that angle. 


Frequently, we are not going to know who is swimming naked, until the matter is tested, yet at the same time, I would think that an overwhelming majority of the BIGGER players are going to have had hedged their bets for either direction... so that they make money no matter what... yet at the same time, sometimes mistakes end up being made, and they speculate that they will get bailed out, and then it does not end up happening.  BIG players do sometimes end up fucking up.


Sometimes there can be some truth to aspects of the conspiracy theories, yet sometimes, such conspiracy theories go too far, so I will agree with you regarding the conspiracy theories going too far and the fact that the market sometimes will end up moving further than expected in one direction or another in order to help to sort out what might be some of the underlying vulnerabilities.

By the way, you seem to be the one who is desperate, and so for your own good, you might have to reconsider at what level you are going to buy back (whether it is a partial buy back or buying back in total).


I think that it is possible to get to a point in which a guy has accumulated enough or more than enough bitcoin.

Accordingly, motivations and/or bitcoin portfolio strategies are likely going to differ depending on whether a person might consider himself to be in his accumulation phase, his maintenance phase or if he might be in a kind of liquidation phase (that may well involve sustainable withdrawal).


I doubt that it is obvious regarding when any of us got into bitcoin unless we might clarify that, and surely many times, our forum registration date could be used as a proxy in the event that we don't have further information about a member.

Surely a person who has a relatively long forum posting history, then we may well be able to glance back at some of the earlier forum posts to also attempt to get some ideas in regards to how the particular member was looking at bitcoin at various points in time in the past.

Sometimes our experiences will inform our approach and also potentially lend some credibility to the kinds of claims that we might be making.

We have had some members who have had a lot of credibility in other kinds of technology related fields, yet sometimes that knowledge, experience and/or credibility did not translate very well in regards to their "getting bitcoin," not that "we" necessarily agree upon what "getting bitcoin" actually means.. which might be the foundation of some of the ongoing arguments and/or back and forth that exists between some of the members here, even if to a newbie, it might be appearing that we are agreeing about everything.


I have been registered on the forum for nearly 12 years, and I have never met anyone in the real world who has an account here... so the fact that some of us have not met people in the real world does not mean that real persons are not participating in this thread (or forum) to the extent that figuring out their real identities even matters.. Guys will sometimes get into trouble with the forum if they are trying to prod too much into the real world identities of forum members.

Do you believe that there is some relevancies in regards to real world identities in connection with talking about bitcoin and/or shitcoin topics?


It does not tend to be easy to buy bitcoin at or near the bottom, whether you were in bitcoin prior to the $15,479 bottom (in November 2022) or if you came into bitcoin at around the time of the bottom.

If you were in bitcoin prior to the $15k-ish bottom, you may well would have already used up most if not all of your extra money prior to the bottom, and if you were new to bitcoin, you may well might have had been fantasizing about lower prices.

I take it with a grain of salt if a guy is describing circumstances of "going all in" or some other nonsense at or near any local bottom, whether we are referring to the November 2022 bottom or some other local bottom.  Local bottoms are neither easy to identify and frequently filled with ongoing uncertainties imn regards to how much to put in, even if they might have had been reasonably identified.

Are you suggesting that you made some kind of large and/or meaningful investment at or near that $15k bottom, and even if you did, it seems that ongoing buying or some kind of a plan around it would be helpful.. so for example if a person bought a lot of bitcoin around that time (as a kind of starting point), then there still might have had been ongoing buying, and just proclaiming to have had bought the bottom hardly has any credibility absent some kind of a description of context.

And, yeah some traders might figure out various places to buy bitcoin, but then traders also tend to itch in terms of their inability to hang onto their position and/or to really profit from compounding value effects that have been ongoingly present for those who have had abilities to both accumulate and to hand onto their BTC stashes for the longer term.


Of course, that was a bit of an amazing drop, especially in regards to how far it ended up going below the 200-WMA and also the fact that it largely bounced at or below the 200-WMA for right around 16 months from mid 2022 until October 2023.  That truly was a buying opportunity time that even longer term bitcoiners might not have taken advantage of.  It is difficult to know whether or not such dips will happen in the future, and at the same time, I would not completely rule them out.. even though I truly am not much of a fan of trying to build bitcoin holdings around future dips that may or may not come.. so sure, if you happen to have had been in a place in which you were able to take advantage of some of the lower price levels of recent history, then that does tend to help you out.

And, by the way, don't get me wrong, I can envision various ways in which guys could end up taking advantage of dips even if they largely had considered themselves to be running out of money.. There have been several of us who have gone through those kinds of periods, and yeah, maybe we might compare other folks to our own experiences in order to try to figure out if we can relate to their story or if it might seem like they are just making shit up.

We have had guys come into this thread and acting as if they have all kinds of bitcoin experience prior to joining the forum, and some of them have told some pretty BIG whopper of stories in their attempts to buttress their supposed bitcoin-related experiences... and yeah, I am not even proclaiming that all of our stories need to be 100% true, yet sometimes when guys are sharing their opinions about bitcoin, it can sometimes help if they are speaking from experience rather than just hypothesizing about some imaginary situation that does not really resonate with other members.


Perhaps.  There is always some level of irrationality that can develop and play out in markets, even if the players have become BIGGER. I would not rule out large drops, especially following periods of exuberance and even sometimes following some kinds of interest of fraud getting found out.. .which you are seeming to be quite naive if you believe that fraud is going to disappear or perhaps thinking that "the adults have entered the room." Yeah, the new entrants would like to convince you to have confidence in them so that they can fleece you in similar ways as historic bitcoiners had been fleeced when they got involved with various third-party bitcoin (or bitcoin related) products.  I am not going to try to predict (or negate) the kinds of fraud that might end up taking place in the future and/or the level of players who might end up getting sucked into (implicated or coming out as a victim) such anticipated future fraud.


I doubt we know the future, even though we might likely speculate that there are likely going to continue to play out ongoing battles between self-sovereignty and the use of various third parties for bitcoin transactions and/or bitcoin custody.  Sure, some of us might also become casualties in the event that we don't adequately protect ourselves from the ups and downs and even with whom we might custody our coins.


Personally, I think that no more than 10% of our stash should be put into such derivative products, yet surely there are guys who might think differently about the whole situation, including that there are some grandmas that are not really able to custody their own coins.. .. yet, even the most obstinates of the ETF promoters, might consider putting 20% or more of their value into actual bitcoin and/or even seeing the value of self-custody in terms of causing spot ETF providers to be more responsible and also moving around the coins from time to time, to the extent that in-kind redemption is even possible at the retail level.


I am pretty sure that LFC started accumulating in 2015, yet I am not sure how much he was able to front load his investment into bitcoin in 2015 - to the extent that it even matters, but sometimes there can be good fun in proclaiming that he got his whole stash in 2015, even though it is probably not the case.

I had frequently proclaimed that I had gotten most if not all of my cornz in 2013 and 2014, yet the more that I reconsider my history, I had gotten coins in 2015, 2016, and 2017, and there were some times that I had injected more value in and after 2017 to the extent that any of them remained after the Dude's boating accident.


That is a nice song, even though there is something that is not very "young" seeming when citing Frank Sinatra.