Wait what this is so sudden. We had Heroic that disbanded few weeks ago and now Tundra. Heroic is kinda acceptable since they havent been doing that good in dota2 scene but Tundra on the other hand has been doing pretty decent actually. Its so weird that they are disbanding soon


TI is like 3 months or even less and before TI there is EWC as well. I mean if they want to disband then it should be done before all those major events but on the other hand, they could just stick for the next 3 months until everything is over. They perhaps might win some major tournament along the way

Yeah but at the same time they should be generating decent revenue as well. Probably not that much or breakeven atleast but this season we had alot of tournaments with decent prizepool so team like Tundra that generally finish on average top 5 would probably got decent amount from the prizepool


Well I kinda doubt it. Most casino would only sponsor cs2 because crowd are much higher compared to dota2 and aside from that it seems cs2 is alot more welcome when it comes to betting unlike dota2 that limits gambling sponsorship on top tier events like The International

While it is true that CS2 right now, and for the past 3 years, let's be honest, is much more popular than Dota. However, Dota definitely still has the potential to reach CS2's level or higher. Let's not forget how massive Dota was before covid, from TI3-TI9. Something changed after that and for the worse, especially since the end of DPC.

But if Valve doesn't want to support Dota financially anymore, by organazing things like DPC or Majors or even TI, they need to let at least Dota to be self-sustainable.

Back in the day, like 2014-2016, Dota had a very sustainable circuit in place. The tournaments were crowd-funded, with compendiums and exclusive skins, for example Evil Geniuses couriers, SingSing's Mirana skin, Stickers, player cards and things of that nature. And that shit sells. Alot. Look up DAC 2015. It had 3M prizepool. It was crowdfunded. And alot more tournaments were like that. Like beyond the summit tournaments, Epicenters etc.

Not to mention that items in Dota, were sellable, and tradeable. Much like CS2 nowadays, where gun skins are sellable, and there's stickers that alone are enough to pay org expenses. Dota once had that system too. But for some reason, Valve had other plans for Dota. It's true that Valve put alot of money into Dota. 3 3M dollar majors per year, TI's with 40M dollar prizepools. Sure. But now that Valve turned off the faucet, they need to let the game self-sustain again.

Just put the current monetization system in CS2 into Dota, and Dota will be fine.

Pardon my french but, what a whole lot of nothing you just typed.

Let's get things straight. The whole xiao8 story was created by angry chinese fans for the loss of PSG.LGD against Team Spirit in TI10 grand finals. Back then, they chinese community targeted xiao8 for the loss, because xiao8 didn't ban Collapse's Magnus. That's it. It has 0 substance. I won't go much indepth about drafts, but just to say, PSG.LGD beat Collapse's Magnus in Game 4 of that grand final.

About Ame being investigated in russia for 322... lol dude. Source? Or are you telling me you drew that conclusion because Illidan said Ame is matchfixing because he rage GG'd early against Nigma Galaxy?
https://hawk.live/posts/illidan-hints-322-ame

This is a valid point, Valve is concentrated with creating more attention to CounterStrike than Dota.
And they see it can gain more revenue from those things you mentioned with stickers and even the teams get some of it  as this latest article describes:
https://www.hltv.org/news/44683/valve-release-iem-cologne-major-stickers-tc

For the latest matches being played it is in the CS Asia Championship at the moment:
Falcons vs MOUZ
MiBR vs Legacy

There is no doubt chinese scene is infested with matchfixing, but that is only true for teams/players outside the top4 in China. It's also true that the whole tier 2 chinese scene was obliterated with Valve bans due to matchfixing. And i still remember that Knights and EHOME were caught matchfixing at Lima major 2023. It's undeniable Chinese scene is plagued with matchfix, i would argue SEA scene is almost as bad. These tier 3 tournaments like "lunar horse" or "moon studio" are insanely corrupted. But including xiao8 and Ame in that list is just lunacy to be honest. Outside the top4 in china, every team is shady.

Just a small correction, the only TI champ banned for matchfixing was Faith. TI2 champion with Invictus Gaming. And yes he was playing for Newbee when caught.

Hey guys, i would like to know which players for you, were the strongest players at their peak, during their era. Players that had the most impact. I will rank mine. TI winners only.



Carry
1. Yatoro
2. ana
3. MATUMBAMAN
4. miCKe
5. skiter


Mid
1. Topson
2. Miracle
3. Sumail
4. s4
5. Nisha


Offlane
1. Collapse
2. Ceb
3. 33
4. AdmiralBulldog
5. ATF


Soft Support
1. JerAx
2. Mira
3. GH
4. Saksa
5. Boxi


Hard Support
1. Miposhka
2. n0tail
3. Sneyking
4. Akke
5. Puppey

Awesome! Thank you for sharing.
For me, Yatoro is the best player to ever play the game. His peak at TI10 and especially TI12 where it seemed like  he was smurfing, vulgarazing everyone. Fucking insane performance, never seen anything like it. ana was a mechanical prodigy.

Between Topson and Miracle, for me it comes down to that absolutely brutal performance at TI9 from Topson. Miracle had a longer peak, and he was a god, but he wasn't able to show that dominance at TI, not even at TI7 which he won. Peak Sumail also sits at the table with Miracle and Topson. Sumail was a god at the laning stage.

I completely agree with you on Ceb. I rank him above 33, but below Collapse. Collapse's peak is just unmatched. The most gifted offlane player to play the game.

Jerax GOD.

At pos5, Choosing Puppey as the goat is a legit opinion and i totally respect it. For me Puppey's absolute peak performance was at TI11, when they reached grand final to lose against Tundra. Puppey played out of his mind.
If we talk about peak Longevity, Puppey is number 1. But absolute peak performance, i rank him 5.

Probably a bit surprising that i chose 3 Alliance players on my list but that TI3 Alliance team was one of the most dominant teams to ever play the game. If i had to make anothe rank of the most dominant TI teams ever. It would probably be go like:
1. TI9 OG
2. TI12 Spirit
3. TI3 Alliance
4. TI6 Wings
5. TI11 Tundra

Absolutely, i edited my previous comment, adding that. My list of most dominant teams ever. TI6 Wings ranks at number 4 for me. They didn't win because they broke the game. They won because they were just better than everyone else, and by alot. Just outplaying and outdrafing everyone. Unlike Tundra or Alliance, that completely broke the game, and force Valve to immediatly patch and nerf everything those teams were doing.