Lot of obvious distractions, feet stomping and derailing onto other agendas on your part, but we got there in the end didn't we.

You are correct, there is no scientfic proof.

At long last.

It's not about proof, it's about weighing all potential explanations, gauging their strengths and weaknesses (comparative difficulties), and then determining which is the best explanation. That's how proper science is done.

The evidence in support of God easily trumps the evidence in support of any competing hypothesis for the origin of existence, thus, it's the best explanation.

Is it "proven?" Maybe not, but very, very few things are (including the existence of the self, from which all experience and thought originates). That doesn't mean it's not a very strong, very well-supported (read: powerful supporting evidence) theory.


Sorry, atheists, but saying "it just happened" isn't going to cut it anymore. You'll need a much stronger, mathematically-rigorous, logically-sound argument in order to overtake the God explanation. If the best you can do is magic -- and that's the alternative to design -- then I think it's time you wave the whiteflag and let we rational folks get on with advancing science and culture.

Yet, 'god just happened' does cut it?

God is justification for a particular action...that's it

It's even funnier reading comments from people that offer nothing, or comments based on other people's comment's wether they are right or wrong, always detracting from the point in question, kinda like they are too afraid to answer anything.. or at least stay on topic, and it's guaranteed, they'll always attack in one form or another the very person offering more evidence for/against for whatever reason they have..

To use a simple analogy..

Guy joins ifixu.com, and ask's..

How do I fix this?

Guaranteed, the first person (89%) will ask.. why would ya wanna..? <-this person is an idiot..

The next reply is.. but whats the point when you could.. <- same as above..

What people WANT is the ANSWER, not an idiot offering NOTHING in relation to the topic.

Take this thread for example.. loads of good points that most would feel comfortable with, on occasion you get the odd guy coming in taking the piss, and when he get's shot down in flames, comes back with his/her buddies, creating a clique that do nothing but destroy any hope of whatever the op was asking being resolved. Not that anyone here is like that of course..

The scientific proof that God exists is the fact we are here, prove me wrong.

Have the balls to say you don't know about something, you've just proven my point anyway with your rant

To daniel91, Thank you for not just an interesting thread, but also for showing me who the idiot trolls are, ya know, the ones that have nothing better to do than kill decent topics with comments unrelated to the topic in question, I have njoi'd myself here, until the qlique crew came along.. spot the masonic losers.. they'll do anything to prevent anyone having better answers than theirs broadcast to the world.. oops, too late..

I'm not adding any more to this thread, I'm going to create a new one.. Just to see how long it stays online, as what I'm going to write of is undeniable facts that what is being hidden by some is staring ALL of us in the face.. You want evidence? Look for my thread 'The hidden pathway' - Coming soon(er than you think).. ttfn..

Haha, he is using the logic of a liberal! No disagreement allowed!  No debate allowed!  His opinion is the only one that can be considered!

Wow, No disagreement allowed? Is this your only proof for or against? Why is it the only real negative feedback is coming from long term members here, those same members pointing customers in the direction of each others faucets.. aaaaargh.. debate mother-fucker, instead of trying in your weak attempts to belittle me? Nah, ignored.. cya.. scammer..