Are you dense or trolling?

1) I have the belief there's no god.
2) Science doesn't prove nor disprove its existence. It doesn't suggest it either.

Those two things are completely unrelated.



I insist though
You claim I said science disproves god, where did I do that?

I'm missing what point? Whose point? Your point? 

One could call the simulation programmer/s gods, why not. Doesn't get you anywhere though and I shouldn't think it would gain any favors from the programmer/s any more than an ant in a colony within a tanks on a childs desk.

To assume gender (he) in the programmer/s is assumption on your part.

The programmer/s would probably not be answering "prayers" but they may take notice or wind back to a system backup if we destroyed our biosphere because we fucked up (nukes, nanotech, bioweapons etc). Our time is the system tick of the simulation, if the simulation were paused, fast forwarded, stopped, rewind, etc then the simulants would be unaware.

A simulated universe would probably be fairly simple code (describing fundamental quantum laws) running on a very fast system, think "computronium".

everything "emerges" from it following the evolutionary process. It's not like our bodies are designed in a 3D modelling tool, instead it's more likely that we are complex "self aware" cellular automata. The evolution process itself would still be "real".

Another point that upholds this theory is the fact that Self correcting code structures (ALA Claude Shannon information theory) have been found at the heart of quantum mechanical laws, It seems these codes underpin the very fabric of our reality:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1LCVknKUJ4

obviously no 3. that chemistry combination will ultimately out compete other more mundane chemistry, even if that random combination occuring is tiny it will spread because it has advantage once it exists, that is the process of life.

we were not discussing the implications of what would happen if there would be a god or gods, we were discussing the existence of one.

so apparently you do agree there is a god, even if you refuse to call it god.

I'm open to the possibility that we are simulants.

But notions of god, bible, religious texts do not interest me in the slightest.

Such nonsense is just an insignificant subset of true reality (whatever that might be).

Notions of god have always been put forth by dumb lazy monkeys trying to get other monkeys to do their work for them. And the irony of the situation is that the enslaved monkeys are only too keen to propogate the nonsense, I can only assume driven by fear and ignorance.

See? That's the problem. You haven't even thought things out deeply enough to realize that when you have proof, you don't need to believe. When you have proof, you know it. And when you know something, not only don't you need faith any longer, but you can't have faith in it. You know it. YOU CAN'T HAVE FAITH IN SOMETHING THAT YOU HAVE PROOF FOR. It's an impossibility. You have one or the other, not both.

Perhaps as Vod says, very soon from now we will have the ability to create. But at the present moment, general world "scientific" knowledge is almost 100% faith regarding things like the age of the earth and where life came from. The tiny bit we absolutely know has been extrapolated into all kinds of things that nobody has a clue exist for real.

At least people who believe in God have tons of evidence so that faith is easy for them. But faith that science has answered any of these large questions is more like delusion.

I guess so.. All religions are cults, just when they get to a certain size they become "religions" because folk are afraid of badmouthing them (fear of getting murdered).



Sure, I know I'm free to believe in anything.

I just find the word "god" very loaded, like the word "gay", I mean in reality I like to consider myself quite a gay person, but as you well know that word now has a new meaning and people would think I was saying "I am a homosexual".

The same goes for the word "god", if you say "I believe in god" then many (almost all) will think you are religious. So the word is gone for me, sorry 'bout that!

If I were to say to you that our sun is a binary star orbiting it's own dark star, would you believe me? NO.

This is most likely because there is no (scientific) evidence..

If I were to say that Sirius is a binary star orbiting it's own dark star, would you believe me, YES, 'cause the Dogon tribe of Mali says so..

But the dogon also point out that the binary sirius is a mirror of our own sun.. meaning ours is a binary star.

But our sun is not a binary star according to science.

So how anyone expects to prove the existance of god when all possible science explaining the truth above is..

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It's not a problem. It's my joy. Why? Because even though God can't quite be explained by science, He almost is. On the other hand, science has irrevocably proven that something like evolution does not exist. The only science that proves that evolution can exist is, political science. Political science says, among other things, that when you can't prove your cause, promote it by propaganda. So, in this way evolution has been proven by science. Yet it wasn't evolutionary science. It was political science.

One simple way to show how ridiculous the idea of evolution is, is through scientifically recognizing how many atoms make up the smallest possible living cell. Then add in the part where these atoms must all be situated in the right place. Then throw in the part about how the atoms must be kick-started into motion, all at exactly the right time, in the right direction. Now, compare this with the mathematical laws of probability while including entropy, and you can see that life through some form of evolution is more difficult than winning all the lotteries in the world, past, present, and future, all at the same time.

There is no evolution. There is no Theory of Evolution. All there is, is a bunch of so-called scientists hollering over and over that, evolution is real, real, real, and everything that tries to suggest it isn't is false, false, false.