That's right... Better to do this than staring at a computer screen anxiously watching prices drop if they really are a not trader, better be a HODLer who keeps looking for opportunities at discounted prices like today and they make a purchase and don't have to look at the price too high long time on the computer screen even I said it would be boring.

My way is simple to become a HODLer, there is a golden opportunity to buy Bitcoin and HODL, there is another opportunity to buy again and HODL again.
Until my Bitcoins a lot.


https://twitter.com/sunnydecree/status/1578669796593651718
And don't be sorry, as it says in the picture, smart people will buy now not when prices are high.

Here I understand being a HODLer.

Not only do you have to be smart in holding Bitcoin and other important assets in current conditions. But you also have to be patient in facing every condition that is currently happening, because maybe the bearish condition like now will be a little longer so it obviously requires patience to wait for the bullish to come and must be bigger. Because it would be great if they had bought more Bitcoin in the $18K - $20K price range, then sold it when the price was already at $75K which is also ATH for Bitcoin.

I am with you on this, the season of the major sell on Bitcoin is over as 2022 is concerned, focuses are being shifted to the bullish trend. Bitcoin had suffered enough since 2021, it might now be the time it starts buying without looking down for long as it seems bottomed already for the year at $17625.00 (June low). More buyers are now seen at lower prices, which might be a very good sign of recovery in full strength. Therefore, BUY and HODL at current levels is a good investment.

Well?  Fair enough if you have a different way of articulating what you are doing and what are your goals in respect to why you are somewhat focused on building your bitcoin stash and not buying and selling and trading your bitcoin stash - rather than having a bitcoin accumulation approach.  

I do believe that building bitcoin is about building wealth and about investing and about figuring out what is going to be your allocation in order to help yourself in the future in order that you are likely to have more options in terms of financial vehicles that you are holding and able to view.

We do not just get to some magical future, because bitcoin has already historically added a whole hell of a lot of value and options to people who have been able to figure out ways to use it to empower themselves.

Sure it is true that bitcoin has some limits in terms of ways that it might be liquid and some of the interfaces in exchanging it are still difficult, and subject to possible controls that are not caused by bitcoin, but likely instead a part of the uncertainties of the transition process and the various ways that controls might be attempted to be asserted over bitcoin.

People can have differing views about why they are in bitcoin presently and what they believe the future value of bitcoin will be for themselves for others and/or on a societal level, so I will take back any assertion that I might have made on behalf of the thread's purpose if you believe that I might have stated it wrong in regards to what people might perceive themselves to be building when they are building their bitcoin stash .. and I think the main point that I was attempting to rebutt in my earlier post was in regard to those ideas of BTC portfolio management that perceive buying low and selling high which may not even be about BTC but instead about trying to build dollar wealth, and you do seem to believe that you are building your bitcoin stash for differing purposes than the ways that I had expressed them, and I would not even proclaim that you are wrong because bitcoin can involve a wide variety of motives at the same time that include building wealth, and hedging and building options and responding to the various problems that exist in current fiat systems.

I would think that folks who are not focusing on always holding some bitcoin, and even trading large portions of their bitcoin stash in order to accumulate more bitcoin or more cash, may also be viewing their approach to bitcoin differently and may even have good chances of holding a wide variety of reasons why they are trading their bitcoin and perhaps even some ambivalence regarding which assets they want to try to hold and accumulate and the reasons that they are doing it.. are those reasons short term or long term and where are they holding their shorter term value and their long term value can have a lot of variance between individuals, too.

Well everyone will always be different in doing what they want with Bitcoin, there will be many things each individual with Bitcoin that I hold myself as a HODLer wants to expect something greater in value in the future so doing it long term is our hope and definitely if one day in my country Bitcoin is legally enforced what I hold so far is useful for other things, for example; shopping, paying employees, buying food, paying rent or buying electronic goods can happen because I believe the adoption of Bitcoin in the future will increase so we can take advantage of bitcoin not only because of profit but other ways that are easier to use in any transaction.
Basically want the asset to be higher, but if both can apply maybe that's the real benefit of Bitcoin in the future.

There is always hope for the future let this be the difference between others, while we focus on collecting Bitcoin now while it's cheap, maybe that's what I always say at the beginning and at the end we can use what we want.

All uses in Bitcoin have been felt by many people, including gambling with Bitcoin, it is increasing more sharply, spending is often used for other purposes, trading is often done every day by people, the goal is for daily profits so the goal in HODLing in Bitcoin has many variations, not just holding it but more other desired goals or more ideals,

I might be repeating myself and even quibbling with minor points - because ultimately, each of us will need to figure out which aspects of bitcoin motivate us into establishing a strategy that involves some form of accumulation rather than merely getting in and out in order to get more fiat (in the short term).

So probably we mostly agree, even if we are phrasing some of the matters differently - because I have largely gotten to a point that I have difficulty appreciating that I would sell large portions of the bitcoin that I hold, so even if I perceive that we might be at a top, maybe I might shave some off, but I am likely going to just ride out the volatility - yet the fact of the matter is that if my own conditions change, then I might start to consider that selling larger portions of it might be feasible.. under certain conditions.. perhaps?  perhaps?  I am not really there now...

I'm very sure we 100% AGREE in the mentality/philosophy of the HODL. Our differences are in the "how" to accumulate, and probably also in the "why" we should be accumulating Bitcoin. They are both minor points/differences, but I'm very happy that we do both are aboard in the same ship, ser. I've always noticed that if you ask 5 different people "What is Bitcoin?", they could give you five different answers.

In dealing with bitcoin, the risk does not outweigh the reward as you've thought, this is bitcoin we are talking about and not altcoin, the least you could loose is the volatile changes in price which has nothing to do with loosing your entire fund, you could also realise profit is the trends surges, but before you could engage with bitcoin investment you must ensure you understand how to trade, buy and sell on a right timing, bitcoin is not like other investment platforms, it's a currency and asset.

The ease, or difficulty of "the right timing" would depend in your time preference. The HODL requires very low time preference, which then gives the investor a large margin for error in his/her bids. The shorter and shorter time frame you go, your time preference also go higher and higher, which then causes the investor a smaller and smaller margin for error.

I believe the best path in finding "the right timing" for plebs like us is simply to zoom out and buy during the lows of the bear market.

Oh gawd..  

How do you know?

and why would it even matter?

And I question if it is even true.. look at your post history.. Mr. most optimisitc... are you trying to be funny?  

For example, here's a my rendition of a representative post from you.  "I am going to whine.. but I am going to whine optimistically."    hahahahahaha

Can your posts be used to measure whether you are actually optimistic, or do we need to figure out how you "really feel" through some other means?

Let's say that there were a way to measure optimism, and then we estimate that there are 3 million forum members, but only 50% are optimistic and only 15% are HODLers, but then you want to proclaim that you are amongst the most optimistic of the ones who are optimistic.. so by your measures, you end up in the top 100k of members within your described category.. or whatever?  Makes little sense to me, difficult to quantify exactly, and hardly even relevant within that way of framing it, no?

Maybe I am just quibbling about your wording.. and if you had just said.. I consider myself to be amongst the most optimistic of HODLers rather than making a factual statement then I would not have been as likely to quibble because you would have just been making a statement regarding how you view yourself rather than an actual factual statement... Sure I could have still quibbled.. but there would have been less room for such quibbling...  #justsaying

Your above-linked twitter meme seems to be a reasonable (or might we say optimistic?) way to consider BTC price dynamic matters.